Leah, I don't want to get into a lengthy discussion here on the generic (genus) name of the Rams. Right now Microgeophagus Axelrod, 1971 is the name accepted by most taxonomists. Mayland & Bork agree with Géry and use Microgeophagus Frey, 1957 in their book. There is a question on whether this name is a "nomen nudem" or not. Römer's new book goes along with Kullander's contention that the name Mikrogeophagus (with a "k") Meulengracht-Madsen, 1968 is the oldest valid name and should be used for the genus. Time (maybe) will tell. Your Bolivian Rams were originally called Crenicara altispinosa Haseman, 1911. They then were moved to the genus Papiliochromis by Kullander in 1981 and called Papiliochromis altispinosa (Haseman, 1911). This paper was published in the German Cichlid Association's journal, DCG-Informationen, in Kullander's original English text next to a German translation. The German translation got some key phrases mixed up and this led to a lot of people in the mid-1980's thinking that (domestic developed) German Rams were actually Bolivian Rams. This was before the true Bolivian Ram was introduced into the hobby. Now the Bolivian Ram is called Microgeophagus altispinosus (Haseman, 1911) (note the masculine suffix) by most taxonomists, but it could turn out to be Mikrogeophagus altispinosus (Haseman, 1911). To misquote Shakespeare, Ah, what's in a name! A Ram is a Ram. Mike Wise Mike Wise Leah Neuhauser wrote: > I had one question though, about the species name. . .is it > Microgeophagus or Papiliochromis altispinosa? I'm thinking its > Microgeophagus now, but maybe not. . . > Thanks, > Leah > Leah1818@hotmail.com > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!