After waiting at least 6 weeks, my LFS finally got my Rams in on Thursday. Of course, when the LFS called me at work, I had to claim a family emergency to pick them up and bring them home. ;) I had ordered five, but the distributor had put six in the bag. As I had asked to be able to pick them up as soon as they received them to avoid the double stress of being acclimated to the LFS water and then mine, I didn't have the heart to leave the sixth one behind. I tested their water for PH and Ammonia as soon as I opened the bag and the ammonia was barely readable, but so was the PH. My test kit at the time only read down to 6.0, (got a new one since then), but it took me 45min. to bring the water in the bag to my water PH level of 6.2. I would say that their water must have been at 5.0 or lower. I still believe I acclimated them too quickly, but the thought of needing to get back to work was pretty tough to ignore. Only one of them is showing any signs of stress, i.e. swollen, red gills w/ hard breathing, but he? seems to be doing better now. They're beginning to come out of hiding as long as I'm not too close to the tank, and are all eating flake food. I'm also dosing them with medicated flake food twice daily just to be on the safe side. After seeing these little beauties, I don't know why anyone would want the gold Rams. The gold ones I mistakenly got at a bad LFS had no where near the color that these guys have. Of course, the ones I had gotten at that LFS may not have been good representation for the color variation. Sorry if this has been a bit long, but I'm just so excited! Sherry ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!