Two things I would recommend, Cory. Lower the temperature to around 77º F. These are Apistos, not angels. Also change out the substrate for something darker. The darker the better. In their native environs, the bottom is covered with dead leaves, which are dark brown or black. Bob Dixon ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!