i also have a lonely female, if anybody wants it. (i still have those 2 large L. thayeri males). tsuh yang chen, nyc ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!