Mike, I've seen some big Rams, but I don't think I've ever seen one bigger than 8 feet... or did you mean the cacatuoides? or the ovine kind? :) -mk >I doubt that the Rams would breed in the same tank with A. cacatuoides unless it >was very, very large > 8 feet long. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!