So my rams are feeling a lot better now, your advices gave me a lot of help. Mike can you please explain me how light can be a solution for ick? I've never heard about that before but since I switched off the lights my rams got well!!! Thanks a lot Bye Simone ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!