Hey I have a pair of mcmasteri - supposedly - and the male has a very attractive blue sheen, particularly round the head. I was a bit puzzled as the colours did not match the few mcmasteri pics I had access to while the body shape did, so I was not sure whether to accept the fish shop's attribution. I live in England so they might be a locally preserved type. On the other hand, I really don't know enough to be able to say what mcmasteri should look like. Hi, Can you take a photograph, scan it an email to anyone who is interested in trying to ID it? This is a very useful way of obtaining the true identity of fish. Often shops or wholesalers don't know and will happily make up a name. Please, don't post a photo to the list as it's not allowed. Cheers, Ken, Edinburgh - Scotland. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!