Regarding the subject of a spinal deformities and breeding. Please guys take it easy. There are people participating on this list who have no formal education whatsoever in genetics. It's rather disconcerting to read bold statements that a fish with a deformity must have acquired it through genetics. That is definitely not necessarily the case. There are several reasons why any particular fish may end up being deformed. A very generalized differential diagnosis would include: genetics, poor quality food and water, contagious disease, or an accident. Don't automatically assume that an imperfect fish is not a candidate for breeding purposes. The point is that if someone wants to use a fish like this to breed, then they will discover for themselves if the condition is inherited. And if it is, so what? Unless someones entire income and lifestyle is dependant on whether a fish is going to produce normal offspring, then lets step back and get things into perspective. We're not discussing million dollar Grade 1 race horses here and wondering if the 100,000 dollar stud fee is a good investment. If the fry are deformed, then (as gruesome as it is to me) they can be consumed by appropriate predators. Don't try to convince me that the people on this list who breed hundreds of apistos and other fish every year don't do some form of culling. Dave Gomberg has been around for quite some time and I don't consider his advice to be something at which one should sneer. You really _can't_ trust everything you read on the internet. Please don't pop any blood vessels. My writing this _does not_ imply that Eric Olson's Krib is full of flaws etc. Let calmer heads prevail. Gabriella Kadar >Touche > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dave Gomberg [mailto:gomberg@wcf.com] >Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 5:54 PM >To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com >Subject: Re: Nannochromis tranvestitus > >Reading what is written is a terrific start too. > >At 06:42 PM 11/29/1999 -0700, JASON MILLER wrote: >> I think you can believe some things on the net. Take thekrib.com for >>example. Are you saying not to believe anything Erik has put up on >>there, Dave. I don't believe the net is full of garbage, you just have >>to take everything with a grain of salt. Confering with fellow listers >>also helps. >> >>Jason Miller >> >>Dave Gomberg wrote: >>> >>> Please, please, please don't believe everything you read on the net. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!