Hello Gary I thought more along of the lines of stepped in a pile of ... and came out smelling like a rose. I would take Don's advice, get more tanks. If you can't do that because your wife will kill you, I would go with the Elizabethae and the Diplotaenia. They're nice fish and not very commonly kept. The challenge would be worth getting them. Just keeping them would make me happy enough. One question here about your list. Isn't Uaupesi and sp Rotkeil the same fish?? At least from some reading I've done I thought they were, could be wrong. This would be my 3rd choice if possible from your list. Anyways good luck with them. It'll be nice to talk about them at one of the MAS meetings. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!