Sarah, I just called an importer who says they're coming in as 'ecuadoriensis', but he didn't have the genus name at hand. They are also sold as Darien tetras. It's a pretty fish - I've seen some fair sized ones that have come in wild. They're supposed to be easy to breed, but I haven't kept them myself. Altispinosa are pretty easy to get along with, and I keep my related '2 spot' version with a rummy-nose tetra species and a few cardinals. They don't bother smaller tetras. Just watch the larger tetras don't bother your female, and that should work out. Your conditions sound good, especially since you have a fairly light population. My Microgeophagus '2-spot' have spawned for the 5th time, and are guarding. Still no hatch. I haven't been able to determine whether they eggs aren't fertilized or the water has been wrong. They are more timid than altispinosa, but keeping some D. maculatus in with them seems to provide a better dither effect then characins alone do. They seem to respond to a territorial threat as well as a predation threat, and are guarding better this time. This time I'm trying 30ppm, pH 6 water. We'll see. Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!