A friend of mine has a pair of golds that have spawned umpteen times and no fry. He knows it's a pair because he's seen both fishes tubes during the spawning process. I'm growing out 10 green form severums that are about silver dollar sized. Bought the whole bunch of them for around $6 at an auction 2 months ago. I do prefer the green form. Don't know what I'm going to do with all the extra fish once a pair forms. I just wanted to see if I could spawn them. Will keep the pair once they start spawning and will most likely have to give the rest away as not too many shops around here will give you much for them. Get ahold of me in the spring. I'm sure they'll be sexable by then and will gladly give some to someone who wants the extras. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!