Daryl, Sometimes I leave fry with the parents until they are grown if I am cramped for tank space, of course the parents don't spawn again as fast and you have less total fry in that case. I have even had apisto's raise two spawns in the same tank (nijsseni, gibbiceps, aggies and steindachneri). Now some pairs of apisto's I have more problems with the parents eating fry and I have to pull them out at three weeks. Depends on the individual fish. Kathy ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!