In a message dated 12/23/99 8:47:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, kutty@earthlink.net writes: > Yup, they are the shiest fish I've ever kept. (snip) In their 60-gal tank, my eight thayeri > banged and bashed their empty little heads up against everything, everytime > I walked into my fish room. So, to keep them from giving themselves > concussions, I took the drastic step of covering up the whole tank with dark > paper with a small peep hole (3 inches by 6 inches) on the side for me to > observe. This helps with the head-banging but is a sorry and pathetic way > to enjoy cichlids. I really dont blame them because there were Hoplias > (nasty Wolf fish) everywhere in their habitat. (snip) I'll hang on to the thayeri > for one more year and if they still dont breed, I'll go out and get a > Hoplias and start feeding the little numb skulls to the Hoplias one by one. cruel man... mine are not that panicky (not much headbanging), although they hide a lot. it's a relatively dark tank because of overgrown giant vallisnerias and driftwood. btw, Hoplias (trahiras) are highly prized food fish in the amazon (i'm sure you know that). so after you feed the thayeri to the trahira, you can deep fry it and serve it for dinner... heck, in the amazon, they eat anything that has enough meat in it... discus, piranhas, all those pricey catfish in the petshops... tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!