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RE: Masthead IV: Masthead's Revenge



Good Morning,

Wow, I come back from vacation and it appears the Planet has gone completely
governmental.  ~~laughing~~  I know, I should take all this more seriously,
but, I look at it this way.  If we can agree, as a majority, on how we wish
to run and present the club to the public, and still have fun........well,
is that not what the club is all about?  If all this becomes less than fun,
we will lose members and eventually the club too.  I like what Erika has
outlined below (well, except for visions of dissected
ostriches....~~laughing again~~) and believe we can make it work rather well
for us.  I hope we can all agree that it will work for what we need and we
can move on to having fun and enjoying the other aspects of the club.

Clay

-----Original Message-----
From: Charter [mailto:charter@charter-terminal.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:13 AM
To: gsas-board@thekrib.com
Subject: Re: Masthead IV: Masthead's Revenge


The relationship (between board of directors, board members, executive 
committee, and non-executive committee) is drawn by the federal government, 
as part of the qualifications for creating a non-profit corporation.  I 
formed my own non-profit corporation last year (sadly since dissolved) so 
I'm pretty familiar with this particular landmine of confusion.  I hope I 
can help the discussion, and not make it more complicated! 

Remember those godawful "not all ostriches are birds, but all birds are 
ostriches" diagrams in philosophy/logical thinking class?  This is kind of 
the same deal.  All executive committee members are board members, but not 
all board members are executive committee members. 

The executive committee (President, Treasurer, Historian) is the "core team"

which rules the board of directors.  It also has the ability to create other

(non-executive) committees to carry out the wishes of the board - such as 
the Hospitality Committee, the Newsletter Committee, and so forth. 

So, technically speaking, the masthead should read: 

GSAS BOARD OF DIRECTORS EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS 

President: Clay Hess
Treasurer: Bob Holmes
Historian: Rick Rose 

GSAS BOARD OF DIRECTORS 

Clay Hess
Bob Holmes
Rick Rose
Dave Sanford
Don Rudee
Paul Carey 

NON-EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE CHAIRS 

Newsletter: Erika Barcott 

(And so forth.)  But from the practical standpoint of newsletter layout, it 
looks kind of silly to break it out like that. 

Since I couldn't attend the board meeting, I'm not sure why or how this 
whole thing got started.  The real problem is that the list of positions on 
the executive committee is something which GSAS would have defined in its 
bylaws when it filed for incorporation.  And these documents are, well, 
gone. 

I can tell you that from the perspective of someone who's been there and 
done that, I would bet cash money that, of the list of positions I sent out 
earlier, the only ones which are meant to be on the executive committee are 
the ones which I listed there initially: President, Treasurer, Historian.  
Although it's technically within the executive committee's powers to 
"promote" positions like Newsletter Editor from non-executive to executive, 
this would defeat the purpose of having non-executive committees in the 
first place. 

I have technically stepped down from my previous position as board member, 
because I won't be able to attend meetings this year.  However, I made the 
lateral move to "head of the newsletter committee," which means that I can 
stay involved without having to attend meetings.  I believe Erik and Kathy 
made similar decisions, and have also stepped down from the board.  But I'm 
sure they'll let me know if I am wrong.  :) 

 - Erika 

Rick Rose writes: 

> Erik and Erika need to be listed as Board Members too. 
> 
> Don't forget... The Board is going to address these Board Positions vs.
> Not-necessarily-board Positions (Committee Chairs) at the next meeting so
it
> may have yet another life even after this one.  We need something
realistic
> for now that can be fine-tuned next month. 
> 
> Rick 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gsas-board@thekrib.com
> [mailto:owner-gsas-board@thekrib.com]On Behalf Of Charter
> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:30 PM
> To: gsas-board@thekrib.com
> Subject: Masthead IV: Masthead's Revenge 
> 
> 
> Here's the latest draft of the dreaded Masthead.  Take heart from the
> thought that we only have to hash this out once, at the beginning of the
> year.  As soon as we've got it all straightened out, we will not need to
> discuss it any further, I promise!  :) 
> 
> GSAS BOARD OF DIRECTORS 
> 
> President: Clay Hess
> Treasurer: Bob Holmes
> Historian: Rick Rose
> Board Members: Dave Sanford, Don Rudee, Paul Carey 
> 
> COMMITTEE CHAIRS 
> 
> Breeders Award Program: Paul Carey
> Exchange Editor: Erika Barcott
> Hospitality: Sandy Gibson
> Library: Bob Holmes
> Membership Coordinator: Bob Holmes
> Newsletter Editor: Erika Barcott
> Plant Auction: Erik Olson
> Webmaster: Erik Olson 
> 
> OPEN POSITIONS 
> 
> Board Meeting Coordinator
> Contests
> Fish of the Month
> General Auction
> General Meeting Coordinator
> Horticulture Award Program
> Philanthropy
> Promotional Relations
> Shows
> Summer Picnic Coordinator
> Winter Party Coordinator 
> 
> Take a close look at the list of open positions and let me know if we can
> dispense with or combine some of the positions.  For example, do we really
> need both a summer and a winter party coordinator?  Could this position
> plausibly be combined into a single position called "Party Coordinator"?
> And do we actually need a board meeting coordinator?  Seems like they do a
> pretty good job of coordinating themselves, but what do I know?  :)
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