Good Morning, Wow, I come back from vacation and it appears the Planet has gone completely governmental. ~~laughing~~ I know, I should take all this more seriously, but, I look at it this way. If we can agree, as a majority, on how we wish to run and present the club to the public, and still have fun........well, is that not what the club is all about? If all this becomes less than fun, we will lose members and eventually the club too. I like what Erika has outlined below (well, except for visions of dissected ostriches....~~laughing again~~) and believe we can make it work rather well for us. I hope we can all agree that it will work for what we need and we can move on to having fun and enjoying the other aspects of the club. Clay -----Original Message----- From: Charter [mailto:charter@charter-terminal.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:13 AM To: gsas-board@thekrib.com Subject: Re: Masthead IV: Masthead's Revenge The relationship (between board of directors, board members, executive committee, and non-executive committee) is drawn by the federal government, as part of the qualifications for creating a non-profit corporation. I formed my own non-profit corporation last year (sadly since dissolved) so I'm pretty familiar with this particular landmine of confusion. I hope I can help the discussion, and not make it more complicated! Remember those godawful "not all ostriches are birds, but all birds are ostriches" diagrams in philosophy/logical thinking class? This is kind of the same deal. All executive committee members are board members, but not all board members are executive committee members. The executive committee (President, Treasurer, Historian) is the "core team" which rules the board of directors. It also has the ability to create other (non-executive) committees to carry out the wishes of the board - such as the Hospitality Committee, the Newsletter Committee, and so forth. So, technically speaking, the masthead should read: GSAS BOARD OF DIRECTORS EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS President: Clay Hess Treasurer: Bob Holmes Historian: Rick Rose GSAS BOARD OF DIRECTORS Clay Hess Bob Holmes Rick Rose Dave Sanford Don Rudee Paul Carey NON-EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE CHAIRS Newsletter: Erika Barcott (And so forth.) But from the practical standpoint of newsletter layout, it looks kind of silly to break it out like that. Since I couldn't attend the board meeting, I'm not sure why or how this whole thing got started. The real problem is that the list of positions on the executive committee is something which GSAS would have defined in its bylaws when it filed for incorporation. And these documents are, well, gone. I can tell you that from the perspective of someone who's been there and done that, I would bet cash money that, of the list of positions I sent out earlier, the only ones which are meant to be on the executive committee are the ones which I listed there initially: President, Treasurer, Historian. Although it's technically within the executive committee's powers to "promote" positions like Newsletter Editor from non-executive to executive, this would defeat the purpose of having non-executive committees in the first place. I have technically stepped down from my previous position as board member, because I won't be able to attend meetings this year. However, I made the lateral move to "head of the newsletter committee," which means that I can stay involved without having to attend meetings. I believe Erik and Kathy made similar decisions, and have also stepped down from the board. But I'm sure they'll let me know if I am wrong. :) - Erika Rick Rose writes: > Erik and Erika need to be listed as Board Members too. > > Don't forget... The Board is going to address these Board Positions vs. > Not-necessarily-board Positions (Committee Chairs) at the next meeting so it > may have yet another life even after this one. We need something realistic > for now that can be fine-tuned next month. > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-gsas-board@thekrib.com > [mailto:owner-gsas-board@thekrib.com]On Behalf Of Charter > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:30 PM > To: gsas-board@thekrib.com > Subject: Masthead IV: Masthead's Revenge > > > Here's the latest draft of the dreaded Masthead. Take heart from the > thought that we only have to hash this out once, at the beginning of the > year. As soon as we've got it all straightened out, we will not need to > discuss it any further, I promise! :) > > GSAS BOARD OF DIRECTORS > > President: Clay Hess > Treasurer: Bob Holmes > Historian: Rick Rose > Board Members: Dave Sanford, Don Rudee, Paul Carey > > COMMITTEE CHAIRS > > Breeders Award Program: Paul Carey > Exchange Editor: Erika Barcott > Hospitality: Sandy Gibson > Library: Bob Holmes > Membership Coordinator: Bob Holmes > Newsletter Editor: Erika Barcott > Plant Auction: Erik Olson > Webmaster: Erik Olson > > OPEN POSITIONS > > Board Meeting Coordinator > Contests > Fish of the Month > General Auction > General Meeting Coordinator > Horticulture Award Program > Philanthropy > Promotional Relations > Shows > Summer Picnic Coordinator > Winter Party Coordinator > > Take a close look at the list of open positions and let me know if we can > dispense with or combine some of the positions. For example, do we really > need both a summer and a winter party coordinator? Could this position > plausibly be combined into a single position called "Party Coordinator"? > And do we actually need a board meeting coordinator? Seems like they do a > pretty good job of coordinating themselves, but what do I know? :) > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com > with "unsubscribe gsas-board" in the body of the message. > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/gsas-board > When asked, log in as username is "gsas-board", and password "gsas-bored". > > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com > with "unsubscribe gsas-board" in the body of the message. > Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/gsas-board > When asked, log in as username is "gsas-board", and password "gsas-bored". > ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe gsas-board" in the body of the message. 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