Re: Masthead IV: Masthead's Revenge

[Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>]

Nope, I'm still on the board.  Thought you were too.  Aside from that,
you're totally right about everything.  Executive: Pres, VP, Secretary, 
Treas.  Board positions, elected or appointed by the board. 

   - Erik

On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Charter wrote:

> The relationship (between board of directors, board members, executive 
> committee, and non-executive committee) is drawn by the federal government, 
> as part of the qualifications for creating a non-profit corporation.  I 
> formed my own non-profit corporation last year (sadly since dissolved) so 
> I'm pretty familiar with this particular landmine of confusion.  I hope I 
> can help the discussion, and not make it more complicated! 
> 
> Remember those godawful "not all ostriches are birds, but all birds are 
> ostriches" diagrams in philosophy/logical thinking class?  This is kind of 
> the same deal.  All executive committee members are board members, but not 
> all board members are executive committee members. 
> 
> The executive committee (President, Treasurer, Historian) is the "core team" 
> which rules the board of directors.  It also has the ability to create other 
> (non-executive) committees to carry out the wishes of the board - such as 
> the Hospitality Committee, the Newsletter Committee, and so forth. 
> 
> So, technically speaking, the masthead should read: 
> 
> GSAS BOARD OF DIRECTORS EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS 
> 
> President: Clay Hess
> Treasurer: Bob Holmes
> Historian: Rick Rose 
> 
> GSAS BOARD OF DIRECTORS 
> 
> Clay Hess
> Bob Holmes
> Rick Rose
> Dave Sanford
> Don Rudee
> Paul Carey 
> 
> NON-EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE CHAIRS 
> 
> Newsletter: Erika Barcott 
> 
> (And so forth.)  But from the practical standpoint of newsletter layout, it 
> looks kind of silly to break it out like that. 
> 
> Since I couldn't attend the board meeting, I'm not sure why or how this 
> whole thing got started.  The real problem is that the list of positions on 
> the executive committee is something which GSAS would have defined in its 
> bylaws when it filed for incorporation.  And these documents are, well, 
> gone. 
> 
> I can tell you that from the perspective of someone who's been there and 
> done that, I would bet cash money that, of the list of positions I sent out 
> earlier, the only ones which are meant to be on the executive committee are 
> the ones which I listed there initially: President, Treasurer, Historian.  
> Although it's technically within the executive committee's powers to 
> "promote" positions like Newsletter Editor from non-executive to executive, 
> this would defeat the purpose of having non-executive committees in the 
> first place. 
> 
> I have technically stepped down from my previous position as board member, 
> because I won't be able to attend meetings this year.  However, I made the 
> lateral move to "head of the newsletter committee," which means that I can 
> stay involved without having to attend meetings.  I believe Erik and Kathy 
> made similar decisions, and have also stepped down from the board.  But I'm 
> sure they'll let me know if I am wrong.  :) 
> 
>  - Erika 
> 
> Rick Rose writes: 
> 
> > Erik and Erika need to be listed as Board Members too. 
> > 
> > Don't forget... The Board is going to address these Board Positions vs.
> > Not-necessarily-board Positions (Committee Chairs) at the next meeting so it
> > may have yet another life even after this one.  We need something realistic
> > for now that can be fine-tuned next month. 
> > 
> > Rick 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gsas-board@thekrib.com
> > [mailto:owner-gsas-board@thekrib.com]On Behalf Of Charter
> > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:30 PM
> > To: gsas-board@thekrib.com
> > Subject: Masthead IV: Masthead's Revenge 
> > 
> > 
> > Here's the latest draft of the dreaded Masthead.  Take heart from the
> > thought that we only have to hash this out once, at the beginning of the
> > year.  As soon as we've got it all straightened out, we will not need to
> > discuss it any further, I promise!  :) 
> > 
> > GSAS BOARD OF DIRECTORS 
> > 
> > President: Clay Hess
> > Treasurer: Bob Holmes
> > Historian: Rick Rose
> > Board Members: Dave Sanford, Don Rudee, Paul Carey 
> > 
> > COMMITTEE CHAIRS 
> > 
> > Breeders Award Program: Paul Carey
> > Exchange Editor: Erika Barcott
> > Hospitality: Sandy Gibson
> > Library: Bob Holmes
> > Membership Coordinator: Bob Holmes
> > Newsletter Editor: Erika Barcott
> > Plant Auction: Erik Olson
> > Webmaster: Erik Olson 
> > 
> > OPEN POSITIONS 
> > 
> > Board Meeting Coordinator
> > Contests
> > Fish of the Month
> > General Auction
> > General Meeting Coordinator
> > Horticulture Award Program
> > Philanthropy
> > Promotional Relations
> > Shows
> > Summer Picnic Coordinator
> > Winter Party Coordinator 
> > 
> > Take a close look at the list of open positions and let me know if we can
> > dispense with or combine some of the positions.  For example, do we really
> > need both a summer and a winter party coordinator?  Could this position
> > plausibly be combined into a single position called "Party Coordinator"?
> > And do we actually need a board meeting coordinator?  Seems like they do a
> > pretty good job of coordinating themselves, but what do I know?  :)
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