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RE: Post auction misc.
Good Evening,
On the subject of reselling a number of items from the auction. Seems this
happens in all auctions I have ever seen. Whether it happens directly after
the acution or days, months or years after the auction people do it. Just the
way it works. So, if someone can make another nickel on something they bought,
it is very simple, it will be done. This may not seem like the best of
practices.....but, a capitalistic society runs in exactly this way. I will say
I don't care for the practice at times depending on the situation...but, for
the most part, it is just another day in America. It could be a lot worse.
I do agree with Sandu's input on broken or defective equipment. I feel a bit
remiss in that perhaps I did not do a good enough job in noting items that were
used equipment and I certainly hope no one got less than what they expected
from the auction. In the future as an auctioneer, I will try to make sure it
is clear when used equipment is being sold and what that may mean as to its
functionality.
I would also like to note that I think the bidders and the donors did an
excellent job this year of keeping things interesting and making it a great mix
of items for sale and bought as well.
Clay
-----Original Message-----
From: simion [mailto:s.simion@comcast.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 8:36 PM
To: gsas-board@thekrib.com
Subject: Re: Post auction misc.
Rick,
I understand your point, but for me, this sounds a bit idealistic. I don't
think that we should care what people intend to do with their purchases. If one
outbids me on...let's say... a new, mystery plant, just because one wants to
have a "mystery plant" salad that night, that's fine by me, even if I wanted to
buy the mystery plant to propagate it, so I can do a great service to the
hobby, and so on... I assume that one wanted that mystery plant salad more than
I wanted to propagate it, and one paid for that.
It only bothers me when someone sells something broken, without notifying the
auctioneers, and it bothers me even more, when someone sells something
defected, that can't even be fixed -like the burned motor of a canister filter.
I don't think it's normal, and I believe that, in the future, this kind of
things can turn the bidders off. That's all.
Sandu
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Rose" <rick-rose@comcast.net>
To: <gsas-board@thekrib.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: Post auction misc.
Good point, Sandu.
While we're on the subject of "polite ways to say things," I have a "rub" and I
don't know what we can do about it, but it would be good if we could do
something (even as a polite suggestion.)
Stepping onto my soap-box now:
In an auction such as ours, there should be 3 winners. The Donor (who gets
name recognition and advertisement,) the club (who gets the bid amount) and the
purchaser (who gets valuable items at a better price than they could at
retail.) One person, specifically, told me that the reason they were willing
to outbid everyone else on the 55 gallon tank and stand setup ($48) is because
they intended to turn around and advertise it for sale in the newspaper and
expected to get $150.00 for it! Now I realize that we really don't have
anything to say about what somebody does with their purchase, but that really
bugs me! This person did not want or need the tank and stand for themselves,
and they outbid other aquarium enthusiasts (members and non-members) robbing
them of their "good deal" just for the purpose of profiting from it as a resale.
Dismounting from my soap-box now.
There's probably nothing we can do about it, but if someone gets an idea,
please share it.
Thanks,
- Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gsas-board@thekrib.com [mailto:owner-gsas-board@thekrib.com] On
Behalf Of simion
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 1:30 PM
To: gsas-board@thekrib.com
Subject: Re: Post auction misc.
It will be helpful if we can find a very polite way to mention, in the future,
in our pre-auction newsletter, that at the GSAS' general annual auction, member
-or non-member- hobbyists can sell, and buy, used or new aquarium related
equipment. However, the equipment, even if it looks used, it has to function
properly. It is not ethical to sell broken equipment to a fellow hobbyist(or
anyone, for that matter), even for a dollar, without specifying its defect.
Better yet, don't sell it at all.
Sandu
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob and Judy Holmes" <jbholmes@nwlink.com>
To: <gsas-board@thekrib.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 10:43 AM
Subject: Post auction misc.
> First; Thanks for your input, Clay. Points well taken. Your email is
> now part of my "auction procedures" file. In addition to Clay'points I
> noticed a couple of other things that may
help
> the auction to run more smoothly; the STAGING AREA AUCTION PERSONNEL
> ONLY might be more effective if we made it larger next year. I think
> it's great to put the kids to work as runners, and it's good for them
> too, but I was a little nervous watching them carry large bags of
fish
> and think maybe older kids and adults should handle those.
> I saw a need for a sort of "escort service" also - one or two people
> standing by to assist with taking the heavy or bulky purchases out to
> people's vehicles and helping to load them, then returning with the
> hand truck, saving the purchaser a return trip. I did this a couple of
> times myself and found the extra help to be much appreciated.
>
> Thank you notes: most important that these get done as they provide
> positive feedback to the donors, setting us up in a good position for
> next year when it's time to solicit donations again. I picked up
> donations from African Northwest and King's Discus (no Liems this
> year, they were off on
a
> trip someplace). I know The Fish Store, FG&P, Sierra Fish & pets,
> Innovative Aquarium Products, Pilgrim Pets all donated. Also Rich and
Diane
> Elliott were instrumental in getting donations from several
> wholesalers
and
> manufacturers and they, as well as those manufacturers and wholesalers
> who donated, should get thank you notes. Did I miss anyone?
> African NW donated a Sea-Clear delux ten gallon aquarium kit, a 50 watt
> heater and 10 lb of gravel.
> King's Discus donated a surface skimmer and two Crystal Magix fishbowls
> The Fish Store donated two pumps
> Pilgrim Pets donated a Marineland Emperor 400 filter
>
> AFrican NW has requested that we send them a donation form
>
> Bob
>
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