Susan: As per your request I will refrain from telling non-members about the mailing list. Instead I will recommend GSAS.org as a resource for schedule, directions, events and mailing lists. I agree with Eric in that there are enough barriers to signing up to the list that limitation to current membership. Eric: The current state of membership is a problem of my doing as I was not able to provide Susan with membership cards until recently. The amount of money collected in November was due in large part to people renewing as I added a box to the sign in sheet and printed a list of current members which was cross checked prior to issuing a new card. (I would like to commend Matt and all that helped for the new cards as they look great!) Now that cards are available, I will absolutely support one more notification and a purge. We have two chances to get our members up to date before the must-be-a-member-to-auction rule hits in February. -Paul On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Erik Olson wrote: > On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Susan Welenofsky wrote: > >> Member chat is supposed to be reserved for members only. I've been on the >> board for three or four years, and you are the only president to allow >> people to join email chat without paying. I would like to suggest that for >> interested people, you tell them to come to one of our meetings. Email chat >> is supposed to be one of perks of having a membership. > > Hmm... > > As the one who started the list back in 1999, I can say that it was > *never* the intention that the member chat be reserved for members only. > The thought was that it would help encourage more people to come to one of > the meetings, possibly join, because people would read of goings on, what > sort of fish folks were breeding, etc. The archive has always been open, > and signup has always been accessible via the GSAS page. > > When you look at how much money comes in from memberships yearly (perhaps > $750 is a liberal estimate... 50 paying members -- see footnote**) vs. how > much is raised by the two big auctions + the meeting auctions... I think > it's pretty clear what keeps the rent paid. > > Now the intent may have been modified by later boards to be more > exclusive, just as an attempt was made to make THIS list exclusive of all > but current board members. I don't remember a conscious change, though. > > - Erik > > ------ > > **FOOTNOTE: I was curious just how large the membership actually WAS these > days, so I took a look at the database. Wow, there's 60 active single > memberships and 27 active family memberships. That's pretty good, > actually way better than it used to be. But then I looked at the expiry > dates on these members via the show/purge function -- itself pretty > liberal, giving 3 months grace period. And 30-50 "current" members are > past due, some over a year and a half past due. So 30-50% of our current > membership (receiving the newsletter and everything) is actually not > paying. Looks like nobody's been using the purge function on the > database every month. > > ...but of course, if those people are getting the newsletter > electronically, it's not really a big cost, and maybe sending them > newsletters for an extra year might encourage them to come to a meeting > or an auction again... > > -- > Erik Olson > erik at thekrib dot com > _______________________________________________ > GSAS-board mailing list > GSAS-board@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-board > _______________________________________________ GSAS-board mailing list GSAS-board@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-board