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Re: Tropheus Duboisi/dieing



Susan-
 I keep the temp at 82 as well. It's always hard
lossing fishies. I have always wantedthese fish, and
now that I have finally got them really don't want to
loose them!

I am not sure what is going on. Just did another water
change. And will do so say every other day of
60%....water changes and salt always help things.

See you Tuesday!

Trish
--- Susan Welenofsky <welenofsky@comcast.net> wrote:
> Sorry about your loses! I was admiring your fish
> from the home show photos. I just lost my only three
> discus. What is your temperature? I keep mine at 82
> to speed up their metabolism. Sounds like they might
> have parasites though, if they are flashing. I'm
> going to try Praziquantel on my fish (cardinal/rummy
> nose tetras). It's supposed to be gentil, and won't
> affect the biological filter. It's about $35 at
> PondRX. 
> 
> Susan
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Trish 
>   To: gsas-member@thekrib.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 10:11 AM
>   Subject: Re: Tropheus Duboisi/dieing
> 
> 
>   This tank is not newly set up, it has been up and
>   running for 5 years, so cylcing is not an issue.
> 
>   All readings are 0 with ph at 7.8.
> 
>   Yes they are eating just not as vigoriously as
> before.
> 
>   The diet has not been changed.
>   --- Barbie <barbie@fishaholics.org> wrote:
>   > Did you mean 0 nitrites?  If so, what is your
>   > nitrate reading?   Was the tank fully cycled
> before
>   > you added them?  Tropheus don't handle the
> cycling
>   > process well at all.  Definitely do 30% water
>   > changes daily until your readings are 0 ammonia,
> and
>   > 0 nitrites, with a low nitrate reading.  If your
>   > fish are still eating, food soaked in garlic and
> or
>   > metronidazole can drastically improve their
> chances
>   > of survival.  At the Cichlid-forum, the accepted
>   > treatment for bloat is Clout, dosed full
> strength,
>   > as soon as the problem is noticed.  If you wait
> a
>   > few days before trying it, the blockage in their
> gut
>   > is usually septic and the progression through
> dropsy
>   > usually ensues.  Changes in diet can also cause
>   > bloat for them, not just the presence of all
> veggie
>   > matter.  Basically they have a long intestinal
>   > tract, much like horses, and any change needs to
> be
>   > tempered with food their gut is already used to,
> or
>   > you can cause blockages.  
>   > 
>   > Barbie
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: Trish 
>   >   To: Fish List 
>   >   Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:45 AM
>   >   Subject: Tropheus Duboisi/dieing
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Hi everyone-
>   > 
>   >   Not sure who can help me with this one, but
>   > whoever
>   >   can, please respond ASAP.
>   > 
>   >   In March/April I had purchased 22 baby
> Duboisi.
>   >   Everything was going along great, all happy,
>   > eating,
>   >   settling in nicley in a 90 gallon, with only
> them,
>   > and
>   >   6 baby yellow labs, 2 clown loaches. All was
> great
>   >   until now about 2 weeks ago, they started
> acting
>   >   different. As in acting lethargic, scraping
>   > against
>   >   rocks, and not eating as vigoriously.
>   > 
>   >   I feed spirilina flakes, romain lettuce, and
>   > frozen
>   >   pease. So only veggie matter. All is excepted.
>   > 
>   >   Water changes once a week of 60%. Chemicals
> used
>   > are,
>   >   Amguel,Novaqua,aquarium salt. Ph tests out at
> 7.8,
>   > 0
>   >   amonia,0 niterates. Filter is a fluval 404, in
> the
>   >   filter for media, I use carbon, filter floss,
> and
>   >   those ceramic stones it comes with. Substrate
>   > sand.
>   > 
>   >   Have lost a total of 8 fish in all, with 4
> being
>   > just
>   >   last night.
>   > 
>   >   Am going to do another water change, even
> though
>   > one
>   >   was just done Saturday morning....not sure of
> what
>   >   else to do. All other fish are fine, even have
> one
>   > of
>   >   the yellow labs holding. The only ones which
> are
>   >   acting different are the Duboisi.
>   > 
>   >   Any information, or suggestions would be
> great.
>   > 
>   >   Thanks in advance,
>   > 
>   >   Trish
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
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