I jsut did another water change, of 60%....will again day after tomorrow. I am a memer of cichlid-forum.com. a very good site and list to belong to. The test isn't that old. All my tanks test at 0. Trish --- Barbie <barbie@fishaholics.org> wrote: > I would definitely do another water change, treat > with clout, and pray. http://www.cichlid-forum.com > has an informative post in the tropheus section of > the discussion board relating to bloat. > http://www.duboisi.com also has numerous articles > that might be of help. I hope some of the info > helps. You might consider a new nitrate test kit, > without a fully planted tank, it's very difficult to > get 0 nitrates in an established tank, especially > with only weekly changes. > > Barbie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Trish > To: gsas-member@thekrib.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 10:11 AM > Subject: Re: Tropheus Duboisi/dieing > > > This tank is not newly set up, it has been up and > running for 5 years, so cylcing is not an issue. > > All readings are 0 with ph at 7.8. > > Yes they are eating just not as vigoriously as > before. > > The diet has not been changed. > --- Barbie <barbie@fishaholics.org> wrote: > > Did you mean 0 nitrites? If so, what is your > > nitrate reading? Was the tank fully cycled > before > > you added them? Tropheus don't handle the > cycling > > process well at all. Definitely do 30% water > > changes daily until your readings are 0 ammonia, > and > > 0 nitrites, with a low nitrate reading. If your > > fish are still eating, food soaked in garlic and > or > > metronidazole can drastically improve their > chances > > of survival. At the Cichlid-forum, the accepted > > treatment for bloat is Clout, dosed full > strength, > > as soon as the problem is noticed. If you wait > a > > few days before trying it, the blockage in their > gut > > is usually septic and the progression through > dropsy > > usually ensues. Changes in diet can also cause > > bloat for them, not just the presence of all > veggie > > matter. Basically they have a long intestinal > > tract, much like horses, and any change needs to > be > > tempered with food their gut is already used to, > or > > you can cause blockages. > > > > Barbie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Trish > > To: Fish List > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:45 AM > > Subject: Tropheus Duboisi/dieing > > > > > > Hi everyone- > > > > Not sure who can help me with this one, but > > whoever > > can, please respond ASAP. > > > > In March/April I had purchased 22 baby > Duboisi. > > Everything was going along great, all happy, > > eating, > > settling in nicley in a 90 gallon, with only > them, > > and > > 6 baby yellow labs, 2 clown loaches. All was > great > > until now about 2 weeks ago, they started > acting > > different. As in acting lethargic, scraping > > against > > rocks, and not eating as vigoriously. > > > > I feed spirilina flakes, romain lettuce, and > > frozen > > pease. So only veggie matter. All is excepted. > > > > Water changes once a week of 60%. Chemicals > used > > are, > > Amguel,Novaqua,aquarium salt. Ph tests out at > 7.8, > > 0 > > amonia,0 niterates. Filter is a fluval 404, in > the > > filter for media, I use carbon, filter floss, > and > > those ceramic stones it comes with. Substrate > > sand. > > > > Have lost a total of 8 fish in all, with 4 > being > > just > > last night. > > > > Am going to do another water change, even > though > > one > > was just done Saturday morning....not sure of > what > > else to do. All other fish are fine, even have > one > > of > > the yellow labs holding. The only ones which > are > > acting different are the Duboisi. > > > > Any information, or suggestions would be > great. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Trish > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Friends. Fun. 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