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Re: Tropheus Duboisi/dieing



Hi Trish:

I have heard of Tropheus mysteriously dying. I make my own fish food, and put 
fresh garlic in the blender to ward off parasites. I've also heard of putting 
metrodiazole in the food and another type of wormer. Maybe Steev Ward could 
help you? He found gill parasites on my dead discus.

Susan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Trish 
  To: gsas-member@thekrib.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Tropheus Duboisi/dieing


  I jsut did another water change, of 60%....will again
  day after tomorrow.

  I am a memer of cichlid-forum.com. a very good site
  and list to belong to.

  The test isn't that old. All my tanks test at 0.

  Trish 
  --- Barbie <barbie@fishaholics.org> wrote:
  > I would definitely do another water change, treat
  > with clout, and pray.  http://www.cichlid-forum.com
  > has an informative post in the tropheus section of
  > the discussion board relating to bloat. 
  > http://www.duboisi.com also has numerous articles
  > that might be of help.  I hope some of the info
  > helps.  You might consider a new nitrate test kit,
  > without a fully planted tank, it's very difficult to
  > get 0 nitrates in an established tank, especially
  > with only weekly changes.
  > 
  > Barbie
  > 
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: Trish 
  >   To: gsas-member@thekrib.com 
  >   Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 10:11 AM
  >   Subject: Re: Tropheus Duboisi/dieing
  > 
  > 
  >   This tank is not newly set up, it has been up and
  >   running for 5 years, so cylcing is not an issue.
  > 
  >   All readings are 0 with ph at 7.8.
  > 
  >   Yes they are eating just not as vigoriously as
  > before.
  > 
  >   The diet has not been changed.
  >   --- Barbie <barbie@fishaholics.org> wrote:
  >   > Did you mean 0 nitrites?  If so, what is your
  >   > nitrate reading?   Was the tank fully cycled
  > before
  >   > you added them?  Tropheus don't handle the
  > cycling
  >   > process well at all.  Definitely do 30% water
  >   > changes daily until your readings are 0 ammonia,
  > and
  >   > 0 nitrites, with a low nitrate reading.  If your
  >   > fish are still eating, food soaked in garlic and
  > or
  >   > metronidazole can drastically improve their
  > chances
  >   > of survival.  At the Cichlid-forum, the accepted
  >   > treatment for bloat is Clout, dosed full
  > strength,
  >   > as soon as the problem is noticed.  If you wait
  > a
  >   > few days before trying it, the blockage in their
  > gut
  >   > is usually septic and the progression through
  > dropsy
  >   > usually ensues.  Changes in diet can also cause
  >   > bloat for them, not just the presence of all
  > veggie
  >   > matter.  Basically they have a long intestinal
  >   > tract, much like horses, and any change needs to
  > be
  >   > tempered with food their gut is already used to,
  > or
  >   > you can cause blockages.  
  >   > 
  >   > Barbie
  >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   >   From: Trish 
  >   >   To: Fish List 
  >   >   Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:45 AM
  >   >   Subject: Tropheus Duboisi/dieing
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   >   Hi everyone-
  >   > 
  >   >   Not sure who can help me with this one, but
  >   > whoever
  >   >   can, please respond ASAP.
  >   > 
  >   >   In March/April I had purchased 22 baby
  > Duboisi.
  >   >   Everything was going along great, all happy,
  >   > eating,
  >   >   settling in nicley in a 90 gallon, with only
  > them,
  >   > and
  >   >   6 baby yellow labs, 2 clown loaches. All was
  > great
  >   >   until now about 2 weeks ago, they started
  > acting
  >   >   different. As in acting lethargic, scraping
  >   > against
  >   >   rocks, and not eating as vigoriously.
  >   > 
  >   >   I feed spirilina flakes, romain lettuce, and
  >   > frozen
  >   >   pease. So only veggie matter. All is excepted.
  >   > 
  >   >   Water changes once a week of 60%. Chemicals
  > used
  >   > are,
  >   >   Amguel,Novaqua,aquarium salt. Ph tests out at
  > 7.8,
  >   > 0
  >   >   amonia,0 niterates. Filter is a fluval 404, in
  > the
  >   >   filter for media, I use carbon, filter floss,
  > and
  >   >   those ceramic stones it comes with. Substrate
  >   > sand.
  >   > 
  >   >   Have lost a total of 8 fish in all, with 4
  > being
  >   > just
  >   >   last night.
  >   > 
  >   >   Am going to do another water change, even
  > though
  >   > one
  >   >   was just done Saturday morning....not sure of
  > what
  >   >   else to do. All other fish are fine, even have
  > one
  >   > of
  >   >   the yellow labs holding. The only ones which
  > are
  >   >   acting different are the Duboisi.
  >   > 
  >   >   Any information, or suggestions would be
  > great.
  >   > 
  >   >   Thanks in advance,
  >   > 
  >   >   Trish
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   > 
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