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Re: cheapo metal halides



I didn't think they made halide bulbs under 175 watts. 

Susan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kate Breimayer 
  To: gsas-member@thekrib.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 4:03 PM
  Subject: Re: cheapo metal halides


  My friend is from Russia and did a lot of aquascaped tanks there but is 
  not up on American equipment and she said gear there was much cheaper 
  overall.  She got metal halide bulbs like they use in the store fixtures 
  at Lowes, and later figured out that the person who was selling the 
  bulbs was very very concerned about them and suspicious overall. Seems 
  they have been mistaken for those engaged in the horticulture of illegal 
  substances.
  Her most current idea is return the Lowes stuff and buy a metal halide 
  bulb and fixture/ballast set she found on a site selling deliberately to 
  the growers of said illegal plants, which offers 75 watt bulbs and 
  fixtures in the 6700K range for a reasonable price. Anyone ever use a 
  metal halide system and know what wattage to go for? I think 2 75 watt 
  bulbs ought to be fine but she thinks maybe it's not enough. The tank is 
  very long and probably 30 inches deep, tops. She wishes to have it look 
  like Takashi Amano's work... gonna need a CO2 system too. She is still 
  learning our words for things she used in Russia, her English is stellar 
  but not only is it British style hence different meanings and words, she 
  didn't get technical English in her schooling so anything high tech we 
  have to explain to her. Once she understands what we are describing she 
  only needs to be told once, though. Hence me having to ask all the 
  questions.
  Actually being a person raised with English I still find the tech and 
  lingo info on many websites daunting. Just try telling a beginner they 
  need pc lights, DIY CO2, their fry need bbs, ph will need buffering, and 
  that really the substrate should be laterite based, and you just get a 
  blank look from just about everyone. :)
  Kate

  Susan Welenofsky wrote:

  >I got a halide bulb and fixture. Not sure what Kate got. But, I have noticed 
more plant growth with another type of light, those bluish Reveal Bulbs.
  >
  >Susan
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: Erik Olson 
  >  To: gsas-member@thekrib.com 
  >  Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 1:01 PM
  >  Subject: Re: cheapo metal halides
  >
  >
  >  Just checking: Did she get metal halide, or "Halogen " bulbs? 
  >
  >  http://www.thekrib.com/Lights/halogen.html
  >
  >  The "under $20" makes me think the latter, but one never knows.
  >
  >    - Erik
  >
  >  On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Kate Breimayer wrote:
  >
  >  > Well, what my friend bought was under $20 so she is quite interested in 
  >  > hearing if it will work. She doesn't have $150 for lighting. They got a 
  >  > 180 liter tank with stand for $15 at a garage sale and thought they 
  >  > would be able to get bargains on all the other equipment... The tank is 
  >  > often the cheapest piece of equipment we buy. If the industrial bulbs 
  >  > did work she would be really really happy. :)
  >  > Kate
  >  > 
  >  > welenofsky@comcast.net wrote:
  >  > 
  >  > >Hi Kate:
  >  > >
  >  > >I got my light and bulb for $150 delivered. It's a 5500 K. I haven't 
set it up yet. You can get bulbs cheap on eBay.
  >  > >
  >  > >Susan
  >  > >
  >  > >
  >  > >  
  >  > >
  >  > >>Hi,
  >  > >>Has anyone ever experimented with the industrial grade metal halides 
  >  > >>sold at Lowes or Home Despot? I have toyed with the idea of using them 
  >  > >>with T-5 actinics for balance, and a friend actually bought a bunch... 
  >  > >>she might return them though. So much cheaper than the ones sold for 
us 
  >  > >>hobbyists but I bet the temp is down in the 3200 K region.
  >  > >>If anyone has used them, what results did they get? Algae? Growth? 
  >  > >>Enquiring minds want to know :)
  >  > >>Thanks,
  >  > >>Kate
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