Re: [GSAS-Member] questions

[Kate Breimayer <kate@munat.com>]

Have you tested the water? Any nitrite/nitrate detectable? Some fish 
seem to plug along at 20-40ppm nitrate which the books say is fine but 
then suddenly they just can't take it anymore. Discus are especially 
sensitive. Did you add any new fish lately and what were they, were they 
quarantined? And last does he have any outwardly visible symptoms of 
disease like slimey coat, patches of white, spots, distended gills and 
heavy breathing, emaciated etc.
I would guess it doesn't like something in the vicinity. There are 
anecdotal stories of gouramis doing this behavior as a result of loud 
noise such as tv or stereos, and headlights at night or living near a 
fire station in view of a window could also do it. How big is the tank 
and do they have cover?
Discus scare me... they are quite susceptible to things that don't even 
ruffle a fin on a neon or the other cheap fish you can get. If you don't 
quarantine and maybe even if you do the other fish can sicken the discus 
and kill it while not showing any symptoms. Breeders often keep them in 
huge tanks with massive daily water changes and super low ph water as 
bacteria don't do well in low ph water, in near sterile conditions really.
What bites about cheap fish is you can get a one dollar fish at a store 
and it may come with a 3 month guarantee but it only covers the buck you 
spent on the new fish, not the 300 bucks you spent on the fish already 
in the tank. Always good to quarantine.
So maybe do a run of water tests and report back, maybe that will reveal 
something that can easily be attended to without medication.
Good luck!
My vals also don't care what substrate they are in. I even have them in 
a substrate free tank with some rocks holding them down. They wound 
their way under and around the rocks and just keep on growing... 
amazingly persistent.
Kate

kjmys@att.net wrote:

> Hello again
> After being scolded for miss posting, I still have the same questions if anyone 
> can find in their heart to forgive me:(  here it is again.
>
> Hello all
> I have a couple questions I hope one or some could answer for me. First, I have 
> a discus that for some reason is racing around the tank like crazy. He is still 
> eating and doesn't have any noticeable spots or the like. The odd thing is I 
> have had two dicsus die within a month of each other and they did the same 
> racing around before they perished, with no noticeable problems before hand. I 
> perform a 50% water change weekly and all other water perimeters are within 
> range. I am on  well water so my thought would be something in the system that 
> acures in the summer time. I have had the fish since last fall, with no issues 
> up too last month. Ideas?
> The second question is a little easier. Has anyone grown Vallisneria in a sand 
> substrate before? How did it due? Any details would be appretiated.
>
> Kevin Myers
> Olympia
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