Hi Anita, Assuming that you have two pairs, they should do fine in your second 20 gallon planted tank. Just place a very small clay flower pot, laid on its side, in two diagonal corners of the aquarium. If you really have two pairs, each pair will soon populate a flower pot. They love to have aquatic plants as their surroundings, but they also like open water areas, as well. So prune the plants, a little bit, around the pots, and leave a "green buffer zone" between the two pairs. For my purpose, I have kept my breeding pairs in 10 gallon bare bottom tanks, just with the flower pot, a water heater (~80º F) and an air driven sponge filter. They did excellent. Good luck! Sandu Simion ----- Original Message ----- From: "A JACOBSON" <amjacobson52@msn.com> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat" <gsas-member@thekrib.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:14 PM Subject: [GSAS-Member] Battling Rams Yes, I know, what did I expect? On Sunday I bought these 4 extremely cute, 1" long rams, 2 male & 2 female (the females have very pink bellies, and the males have more orangey faces, and their (2nd? 3rd? spine in their dorsal fin is already a little higher than the others, so I am assuming I have 2 pair.) The last rams I bought taught me the importance of quarantining all new fish for 2 weeks, a lesson taught by bringing a really bad ich into the tank that killed them and every other fish I cared about, leaving me with 3 serpae tetras and a bunch of cories. So having learned my lesson, I moved them into my heavily planted, 10 gal quarantine tank, which they share with one pleco. They are not happy. Each one seems to be trying to stake out at least half the aquarium as their own territory, but my aquarium only has 2 halfs, and 4 rams. They are being VERY aggressive towards each other. I even saw a very brief jaw lock this evening. Here are my options. I can leave them in there, or I can move 1 pair to a 20 gal, also very heavily planted, which is sorta a quarantine tank, and where I am currently successfully treating an almost full grown angel for parasites with Maracide. One dose left., or I can move both pairs to the self-same 20 gal tank. It is MUCH more heavily planted, and there are many more spaces to hide, than the 10 gallon. Any suggestions? I'll take any and all suggestions to heart. Anita _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member