Re: [GSAS-Member] Using a Python

[Trish <snips36@yahoo.com>]

I only add regualar amquel, novaqua, marine salt, and
now and then cichlid vital. I have 3 tanks with
africans, then 1 tank with guppies,neons, corys,
do-jo's, then 1 with goldies. I use the same products
on all tanks except no cichlid vital on guppies or
goldies. Have been doing it this way for about 6 years
now. Just started using marine salt about a year ago.
For cost, and suposedly has more minerals than cichlid
salt.Do weekly water changes from tap, {with a
python}, of about 50% on all tanks{ 5 total, range
from 5 gal to 125 gal}. Have also read the salt helps
wth slime coating...

Trish
--- Kate Breimayer <kate@munat.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> I don't know if the fish need any additions to their
> slime coat, seems 
> like making more slime is a sign of irritation. I
> don't know, I just 
> don't trust any company offering remedies for
> conditions I am not aware 
> exist. I do see a need for slime coat protection if
> you are physically 
> handling a large fish to do some vet procedure on it
> but my tetras or 
> rasboras, I don't know if they need anything like
> that. Don't know if my 
> fish are any better off than anyone elses though.
> I use salt in all my tanks though, it's supposed to
> help with the 
> osmotic functions of various membranes including the
> gills leading to 
> reduced stress and seems to keep ich and oodinium
> down. I use a 12 
> gallon bin to age water with 4 tbsp pure salt
> (pickling salt, which has 
> no anti clumping agents) and 1 tsp marine aquarium
> salt for added 
> minerals. My tap water is very soft/acid and the
> minerals help both fry 
> and plants. If you are on a hard water system that
> would be unnecessary. 
> Lately I have been adding some harder water fish to
> the fishroom and 
> making up a bin with 4 tsp marine salt and a tbsp of
> cichlid salt from 
> The Cichlid Exchange in Portland. It's an experiment
> really, all my 
> guppies and endlers were coming out female so
> thought I would play with 
> minerals and temp and see if I can get the ratio
> improved. Anyone have 
> feedback on that? The genetics of sex determination
> in livebearers are 
> really weird, it's not an XX or XY thing, it's a YY,
> WX, WY etc weird 
> thing where three different combos produce females
> and two produce 
> males. So what makes a swordtail a girl or a boy?
> According to various 
> universities it makes a great thesis project as
> nobody really knows...
> I found a funny site parodying all the miracle
> products in various fish 
> stores/websites. You would not believe some of the
> stuff that gets 
> pushed down the throats of people. We had a guy send
> us hundreds of 
> dollars in miracle products from Texas. We didn't
> order but signed for 
> them so he threatened to sue if we didn't pay.
> Promised to add 
> beneficial bacteria to marine and freshwater tanks
> and eliminate losses. 
> Tried it and lost whole tanks of fish. It has a lot
> of debris in it and 
> is light brown, no ingredients are listed except
> "Bacteria". This stuff 
> is garbage, and there is a lot of garbage on the
> market so I try and 
> keep it simple. Neutralize the chlorine, add known
> ingredients like salt 
> and minerals, and lay off the sauce.
> This is the site with the parody, also has some
> funny puns at the end, 
> or should I say "finny" puns:
>
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/6279/ComicFunnyStories.html
> Kate
> 
> Trish wrote:
> 
> >Amquel has come out with something new Calked
> "Amquel
> >Plus" this is what smells really bad. The regular
> >"Amquel" which now I have found only from Dr Foster
> >and Smith, and only in 1 gal size, doesn't smell
> bad.
> >The Amqel Plus has other added bacteria, which says
> it
> >is benificial to your fish....well it killed mine.
> So
> >I am back to regular Amquel....have been using it
> for
> >6 years, no problems.
> >
> >No Kate, do you use anything for slime coat as
> well?
> >Like Nov Aqua? Which goes with the Amquel.....LOL
> >
> >Trish
> >
> >PS How large does this Beckett product come? Also
> do
> >you know the price?
> >--- Kate Breimayer <kate@munat.com> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>I personally hate amquel, wouldn't recommend it. I
> >>use a pond 
> >>dechlorinator from Home despot. If you are using
> >>chlorinated water the 
> >>chemical that neutralizes it is very cheap and
> >>easily available and 
> >>there is no reason you should have to use high
> doses
> >>of any product or 
> >>extra ingredients to achieve the aim of
> >>neutralizing, and pond products 
> >>are 2 to 4 times as concentrated as those for
> >>aquariums, come in bigger 
> >>bottles for the same price, and have identical
> >>ingredients in most 
> >>cases. Some of the products out there can be
> >>dangerous in some peoples' 
> >>hands, especially those that use amquel instead of
> >>doing water changes 
> >>(because it says on the bottle "removes ammonia,
> >>nitrite and nitrate" 
> >>which has never been my experience.) Also Amquel
> >>smells really bad.
> >>PAT is good.
> >>According to a Jemco.com many cities are being
> >>required by federal law 
> >>to switch to chloramine  which is more difficult
> to
> >>remove, you will 
> >>need a special neutralizer for that. If they do it
> >>they are not required 
> >>to tell you, scary, or it might be in the paper
> but
> >>if you don't read 
> >>the news... bad deal.
> >>I age most of my water 2 days to allow gasses to
> >>escape, temp to rise, 
> >>and chlorine to dissipate. I only use cold water
> >>since supposedly it has 
> >>less dissolved metals/contaminants. I don't have
> >>space to age water for 
> >>the really large tanks, hence the use of the Home
> >>Despot product. The 
> >>Home Depot stuff is by "Beckett" and I have not
> had
> >>any problems with 
> >>it, let me know if anyone knows bad things about
> it!
> >>I see it also works 
> >>on chloramine so I am covered far as that goes. It
> >>doesn't list 
> >>ingredients but does say it removes some heavy
> >>metals. Guess we wouldn't 
> >>know would we?
> >>Congrats on the python, no sense herniating discs
> >>over a simple water 
> >>change! The cost of the python is quickly recouped
> >>in cancelled trips to 
> >>massage and chiropractic specialists! :) Not to
> >>mention expensive 
> >>physical therapy...
> >>Kate
> >>
> >>Stewart, Jeffrey wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I think I'm using Amquel currently, and I add it
> in
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>as I'm refilling.  I figure out approximately how
> >>much I need to add and then add it in thirds as
> the
> >>tank slowly tops off.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Your back will thank you for getting the
> python... 
> >>>
> >>>Jeff Stewart
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>[mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf
> >>Of A JACOBSON
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 12:55 PM
> >>>To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> >>>Subject: [GSAS-Member] Using a Python
> >>>
> >>>So, I'm about to break down and buy a python --
> or
> >>>      
> 
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