Great information and great news! Growing old is inevitable; growing up is optional. -- haika@drizzle.com wrote: I raised the pH in my Endler's tank by 1) removing the dead brown-looking java moss I got from a mail-order vender who told me to just be patient and it would green up (weak grin) 2) doing 1 gallon gater changes morning and afternoon in my 12g Eclipse to ease up the pH....our tap water here is between 8.0 and 8.6 3) adding a bit of crushed coral in a media bag in the filter tray of the Eclipse...and I slowly added more over several days so I wouldn't get a huge change suddenly all that brought it up slowly from 6.6 or so to close to 7.0 Fish perked up, no more losses and I get females, although I do get more males than females Betty Goetz _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member