Thanks for all of your feedback thus far. Funny as it is, the Gardneri I have is the one on the T-Shirt for the KilliFest in Portland. http://aka.org/nwk/modules/tinyD0/content/WCW_XV_T.jpg I think that is the Fundulopanchax gardneri that Matt and Dave referred to. http://www.killi.dk/artsbesk/images/fgardneri.jpg So it seems from what ya'll are writing that tomorrow when they come in to A Place for Pets that they should be really obvious which one is the female due to the light colration. I'm not sure why Kevin was unsure of being able to sex them. Possibly they haven't had them in to the shop before. Thanks also for the feedback on breeding. I am less interested in breeding as I am getting a companion for the male I have. He snuggles up to everybody in the tank trying to get a date. Thanks Shango ________________________________________________ Shango Los Artist/Entrepreneur V_206 595 9006 F_206 285 9353 www.ShangoLos.com "The gift of fantasy has meant more to me than my talent for absorbing knowledge." Albert Einstein_Physicist _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member