[GSAS-Member] eliminating MTS (was) Re: Clown Loach Maturity and Skittishness

["Betty Goetz" <haika@drizzle.com>]

I heard a rumor that MTS can be eliminated by putting a tank outside and
allowing the temperature to fall into the 40's. Obviously you can't have
fish or plants in the tank that will be affected by those temperatures
either (smile).

I haven't taken my zebra loaches out of the tanks they 'appear' to have
cleaned up to see if MTS appear again. I'm happy to leave the loaches IN
and NOT see MTS crawling over EVERYTHING in droves.

Betty Goetz

> For sure? There's no guarantees. But, I've had them in the past and the
> population of both kinds of snails dropped.
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> However, once the clown loaches are removed, the burrowing snails come
> back. Damn things are nearly impossible to get rid of without chemicals
> (and even then i'm not so sure you can get them all).
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>> From: Shango@shangolos.com> To: gsas-member@thekrib.com> Date: Wed, 15
>> Aug 2007 13:08:46 -0700> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Clown Loach Maturity
>> and Skittishness> > This discussion of Clown Loaches has been
>> informative. Thanks to everyone> who has weighed in helping me out.> >
>> Does anyone know for sure of Clown Loaches will eat Malaysian Trumpet
>> snail> along with regular snails?> > -Shango> > > > -----Original
>> Message-----> From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com>
>> [mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Hess, Clay A>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:58 AM> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium
>> Society member chat> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Clown Loach Maturity and
>> Skittishness> > Shango,> > I have three clown loaches I have had now for
>> about 20 years. In that> time I have found that there are a number of
>> things that make them more> "Active" or skittish and some things that
>> help them seem to settle down.> > Sooooo, things that make them active:>
>> > New fish, especially new loaches> Bright lights> Little cover for them
>> to hide within> Poor water conditions> Having to look for food> > >
>> Things that make them settle down:> > Size.....not sure if this is age
>> related since the two occur together.> Good cover....my 100 gallon tank
>> is full of big plants that they can sit> under the leaves of, and they
>> seem to love that....as well as hiding in> and around large pieces of
>> wood.> Fish that do not occupy the same strata within the aquarium.> A
>> full stomach......kinda like me, if I eat a big meal I don't move>
>> much.> Illness> > > So, this is a short list......there are many more
>> things that impact> their activity but some of these I think the
>> aquarist can control. For> instance, the feeding is an easy one. The
>> lighting is another. The> cover within the tank is one. Water conditions
>> should be easy to> maintain, and this one I cannot stress enough (pun
>> intended). My> loaches do very well when the water quality is good, but,
>> as it declines> you can see the change in how they react to it.> > Hope
>> this helps some,> > Clay> > > > > > -----Original Message-----> From:
>> Shango Los [mailto:Shango@shangolos.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 15,
>> 2007 8:10 AM> To: 'Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat'>
>> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Clown Loach Maturity and Skittishness> > Hello
>> All,> > > > I have a school of 5 Clown fish and I got them about 8 weeks
>> ago from my> LFS. They are small and look young but I don't know how
>> young. Right> now they are VERY skittish. If I come anywhere near the
>> tank they> disappear to the back of the tank under cover. This does get
>> tiring> when trying to enjoy their antics.> > > > My friend has some
>> that are at least a year older than mine and they are> not skittish at
>> all and actually nap out in the open and do that> cuddling thing Clown
>> Loaches do.> > > > Is this skittishness typical of young Clown Loaches?
>> If so, when do> they tend to grow out of it? I am wondering if it is the
>> tank> environment that is leaving them feeling unsafe or if it is simply
>> their> youth. I have been unsuccessful finding anyone addressing this
>> topic> online.> > > > Any insight would be great. I know some of you
>> like Jack are really> into these sweet fish.> > > > Thanks> > Shango> >
>> > > ________________________________________________________> > > >
>> Shango Los> > > > Phone: 206-595-9006> > Fax: 206-729-5271> >
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