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[GSAS-Member] Plants & Africans
I used to keep beautiful planted tanks as a young man, but then discovered
African Cichlids. So it's been artificial plants ever since. I DO have a
29 gal tank that has ~40 Lelupi fry in it, and was wondering if I could put
some real plants in there for a while. Any recommendations? I want a plant
that won't need CO2 and fancy lights. I have a two tube fluorescent and an
undergravel filter. So hardiness and ready availability would be good.
Keith
PS: At some point I hope someone will want to trade Lelupi for other
Julies - say Transcriptus or Dickfieldi or Regani, etc? Please let me
know...
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> 1. Hagen Power-Glo 18K 36" 30w bulb - $5 at meeting
> (Phil Lacefield Jr.)
> 2. Re: Gravel Gossip, the DSAS newsletter. (Larry Litten)
> 3. Re: Gravel Gossip, the DSAS newsletter. (Tom Watson)
> 4. Febuary Plant/Livestock Auction (Paul Wallace)
> 5. Re: Plants Wasting Away (Paul Wallace)
> 6. plant trade (naturalart)
> 7. Eclipse III (naturalart)
> 8. Re: Gravel Gossip, the DSAS newsletter. (DonaldR)
> 9. Lots of Rotala Sp. "GREEN" (Mark Dorward)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 12:07:19 -0800
> From: "Phil Lacefield Jr." <phil@lacefield.com>
> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Hagen Power-Glo 18K 36" 30w bulb - $5 at
> meeting
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> I picked this up out of the clearance bin at Petco last week, thinking I
> had
> a 36" fixture to put it into - but, of course, I was wrong. This is a very
> nice 18K T-10 flourescent tube, normally runs over $30, but I paid a mere
> five bucks (yaa clearance table!) If anyone wants it at the meeting, it's
> yours for five bucks or the equivalent in shrimp :-)
>
> I'll also be bringing some orphan fish I rescued before the holidays that
> don't fit in well with the rest of my tanks. At last, I get to put
> something INTO the monthly auction!
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 12:11:23 -0800
> From: "Larry Litten" <LLITTEN@wecon.com>
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Gravel Gossip, the DSAS newsletter.
> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat"
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> Hi Steev,
>
> Can you send me a copy also?
> I can't make this meeting as will be out of town for business but hope
> the make the plant auction if you need some help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry Litten
> Wilbur-Ellis Co.
> (206)310-5530
> llitten@wecon.com
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Steev Ward
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 6:44 PM
> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat
> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Gravel Gossip, the DSAS newsletter.
>
>
>
> The Gravel Gossip PDF has arrived. Respond if you want it.
>
> Steev
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 12:43:42 -0800
> From: "Tom Watson" <onefish2fish@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Gravel Gossip, the DSAS newsletter.
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> Yes please
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Steev Ward
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 6:44 PM
> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat
> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Gravel Gossip, the DSAS newsletter.
>
>
> The Gravel Gossip PDF has arrived. Respond if you want it.
>
> Steev
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:14:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: Paul Wallace <pwallace@u.washington.edu>
> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Febuary Plant/Livestock Auction
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> Trish:
>
> Welcome back! Did you happen to visit any German fish stores? I hear
> that the plant displays are something to see.
>
> The plant auction is scheduled for Tuesday, February 12th starting at 7
> pm. Depending on how the auctions of 2008 go, we can revisit scheduling
> for 2009.
>
> Please note that like 2007 you can bring livestock (fish, shrimp) to the
> "plant" auction. (herbivores may be a tough sell)
>
> -Paul
>
>
>
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, Trish wrote:
>
> > Me too please!!!
> > We made it back from Germany......had a nice
> > time....traveling during the holidays is awful
> > though.
> >
> > Hope to make it to the plant auction....by chance will
> > it be on a Saturday as the big auciton??
> >
> > Thanks Steev!
> >
> > Trish
> >
> > --- Steev Ward <steevward@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The Gravel Gossip PDF has arrived. Respond if you
> >> want it.
> >>
> >> Steev
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:30:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: Paul Wallace <pwallace@u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Plants Wasting Away
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> Shango:
>
> I would like some more information but to me it sounds line you made a
> major change in something (lighting?) about a month ago. A sudden
> appearance of green water or algae is normal while the system adjusts. In
> your case it sounds like the tank did not recover. It has been my
> experience that green water is triggered by a Ammonia spike (ie decaying
> vegetation). In your case it sounds like most of the plants are affected
> which in turn produces more Ammonia in a cycle etc.
>
> To move forward, I would suggest resetting the tanks with several large
> water changes and removing most of the dead/dying material. Next you need
> to establish a dosing routine with carbonate to buffer the KH (if needed)
> after water changes as you are using CO2 and micro/macro dosing to feed
> the plants. I woujld be happy to dig up links to the Poor Man's Daily
> Drops (PMDD) and Estimative Index (EI). Either can be modified for dry
> dosing, liquid dosing, or commercial supplements.
>
> For the first time in a while I turned up the CO2 in my tank so I have
> lots of plants to bring to the meeting. Most of the fast growing stem
> plants will go at the small auction in January with the others (crypts &
> swords) held until the plant auction.
>
> -Paul
>
> On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, Shango Los wrote:
>
> > Hello friends,
> >
> > I have a pair of 29 gallon tanks, both with CO2 and 130W of light.a
> > 6,700 K
> > and a 10,000K bulb. Lights are on in two 4 hour durations. Eight hours
> > total
> > per day.
> >
> > The temp is at 78 degrees.
> >
> > All of my plants are wasting away. There is a large variety.maybe 8-10
> > different species. All of them are going brown spotted and then
> > dismantling.
> >
> > I also have recently more greenish water on both and one of the tanks
> > has a
> > hair algae issue.
> >
> > What should I be looking at as far as culprits for why the plants are
> > dying?
> > There is nothing exotic in there.
> >
> > Any direction would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Shango
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:17:15 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> From: naturalart <naturalart@earthlink.net>
> Subject: [GSAS-Member] plant trade
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> I am seeking a small bunch of a soft, 'frilly' stem plant such as
> myriophillum sp. or cabomba sp. willing to buy or trade depending on what
> your needs are? We can exchange at the 1/8 meeting if possible?
>
> Clay A.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:17:20 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> From: naturalart <naturalart@earthlink.net>
> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Eclipse III
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> I have a 37gal. tall Eclipse III I dont need any more. Its in good working
> condition. The hood, tank and cabinet base are all in black or black trim.
> The only alteration is a small hole I cut in the back of the hood for a
> skimmer when I used it for a salt setup; and its not visible from the
> front. Write me back if anyones interested.
>
> Clay Anderson
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 20:48:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: DonaldR <gsmd_bari@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Gravel Gossip, the DSAS newsletter.
> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat
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> Me too.
> -Don Rudee
>
> "Hess, Clay A" <clay.a.hess@boeing.com> wrote: Yes please I would like a
> copy of the Gravel Gossip. Thanks Steev
> Clay Hess
> 787 Fuselage Systems Integration Manager and Team Leader
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steev Ward
> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat
> Sent: Sat Jan 05 18:43:43 2008
> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Gravel Gossip, the DSAS newsletter.
>
>
> The Gravel Gossip PDF has arrived. Respond if you want it.
>
> Steev
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 22:11:29 -0800
> From: "Mark Dorward" <mdorward@comcast.net>
> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Lots of Rotala Sp. "GREEN"
> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat"
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> I've got a ton of Rotala Species "Green" that'll I'll trade for if
> anyones interested..
> It is a Beautiful Plant that with good light 2-3 WPG, will have a nice
> "Cascade" effect.
> This species grows like crazy btw......
>
> Trades: Jeez, well, No fish or Plants, thats for sure! LOL ...
> Drygoods ???
>
> I also have a 55 gal. Acrylic Tank with Stand/ Canopy Lights, up for
> grabs Possibly...
> Had a Buyer but hasn't come over as of yet........
>
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