Cliff, I've done some reading up on my live food options, and after reading how to culture some live foods vs. how to culture vinegar eels(after the auction) I think I'd be much more willing to culture vinegar eels. I don't mind a little bit of prep, and I have a syringe to avoid the yucky factor. I'm also not too worried about pH swings, my carbonate hardness stays around 18º, so it'd take a fair bit of acid to drop my pH. I suppose Scuds/gammarus could work too, but I don't have very dense plants and I imagine that they would quickly become a feast in both of my tanks. If you have vinegar eels, I'd love to buy some from you, just tell me how many I'm looking at. :) Thanks, Laurel On Mar 4, 2008, at 9:26 PM, Clifford Miller wrote: > > BBS are pretty low icky factor and easy to hatch out if you don't mind > setting up a bubbler (and paying for eggs, and dealing with salt), and > daphnia are pretty much just a freshwater version of bbs...(with > ostrocods > and cyclops being pretty much just more of the same...). Daphnia are > problematic in the long term...I've had populations surge into the > thousands (maybe even tens of thousands), but the cultures tend to > crash a > little too easily and need constant green water or yeast supplements > to > survive...I think they're best kept in larger volumes outside (right > now > I'm not sure I have any active cultures, but have some ephiphia > saved...). > > I've never kept cichlids, but would imagine they start off too large > for > green water or infusoria to be of use. Vinegar eels and walter > worms are > in the right size range (for tiny fry), but have a significantly > higher > icky factor. (this week I've become pretty enamored with the walter > worms, which are *disgusting*, but in that fun zombie-horror-movie > kind of > way if you're into that kind of thing, and are incredibly > prolific...I've > had bad luck with grindels so the easy success factor made a > difference to > me-- vinegar eels require less handling, but a little more work (or > preparation rather), and probably more water changes if you're worried > about PH). > > Scuds/gammarus (freshwater amphiopods) are by far one of the easiest > non-worm/nematode live foods I've tried to culture, but only the newly > hatched babies would be small enough for tiny fry. The adults are a > good > size for standard live bearers and killifish, so I've been turning > them > loose in pretty much all my tanks. If they can make it to the > plants in > the tank and breed, all the better... > > I could supply any of these for a couple of fry or the price of > materials. > > Cliff > > > >> Alright, so I have my first fry, in 2 separate batches all at once. I >> understand that live cultured food is among the best in terms of what >> to feed them. That being said, I have never had fry nor cultured >> live >> food before. I prefer to have something with a low "icky" factor >> that >> requires little equipment and maintenance, and both my multifasciatus >> and mbuna fry can eat. What is my best bet? :-D Strangely enough, >> I'm looking to acquire some of whatever such food is recommended, and >> of course I don't mind paying for it. Thanks so much for your help! >> >> Laurel >> _______________________________________________ >> GSAS-Member mailing list >> GSAS-Member@thekrib.com >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member >> > > > _______________________________________________ > GSAS-Member mailing list > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member