Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility

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Trish wrote:
> Shamus-
>
> If the gravel is smooth then the Cories, and Do Jos would be fine. They would 
> make a good clean up crew with the food which makes it to the bottom....The 
> Do Jos like to bury themselves, and just have their heads poking out, its 
> very cute. I have sand as substrate, but have kept them with gravel as well, 
> and they were fine. But they prefer the sand. The Goldfish is fine with 
> either, and picks at both....
>
> Yes the cories are tropical, but they can withstand being without heat...my 
> tanks stay at about 70 in the winter, and warmer in the summer, so temp wise 
> they are fine....  Do Jos as well as Goldfish can go much colder.....
>
> OH and as to salt,its fine with the Goldfish, Do Jos, and the Cories....I 
> have been using salt for years...great preventative, for diseases....I use 
> salt on all my tanks.
>
> I would add the Do Jos and Cories, before adding another Goldfish.
>
> At least she did take the larger tank, this will help alot. Now just hope she 
> keeps up on water changes.....this is the key, water changes, make for 
> healthy  and happy fishies....
>
> Trish
>
>
> --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Shamus Young <machismo@eskimo.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Shamus Young <machismo@eskimo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
>> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat" <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
>> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 8:22 PM
>> Thanks to all who responded.
>>
>> I don't think there's any chance of getting a
>> larger tank. It took enough
>> cajoling to get her to take a free 20g tank to move the
>> fish out of it's
>> 3g.
>>
>> I look at this more as damage control than advising her on
>> the perfect
>> goldfish setup.  The fish is in a better home.   If she
>> wants companions
>> and is set on getting them, then steer her towards fish
>> that are actually
>> compatible.
>>
>> I'll push the zebras over white clouds.  I'm a
>> little reluctant to push
>> corys, since I've always thought of them as tropical. 
>> I also seem to
>> recall that she's got standard aquarium gravel in
>> there, and IIRC, you
>> want a fine substrate with Corys so they don't damage
>> their barbels on
>> the gravel.  I'll confirm the substrate compatibility
>> before I push
>> loaches or corys.
>>
>> Has anyone tried mosquito fish?  The cold water livebearer?
>>  it sounds
>> like they might move too slow.  I guess there would be
>> concerns about salt
>> content of the water.  I don't know what goldfish like
>> regarding salt, but
>> from back in the dark ages when I raised livebearers, I
>> added salt.
>>
>> Shamus
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Trish wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Hi Shamus-
>>>
>>> I have goldfish, in a 55 gallon now. And with them, I
>>>       
>> keep the weather
>>     
>>> loaches, and also some cories....with no heater, all
>>>       
>> get along just
>>     
>>> fine, and have been together in different tanks
>>>       
>> through about 5 years
>>     
>>> now....started smaller of course, as small as a 5
>>>       
>> gallon with the
>>     
>>> goldies, and up to a 30 long, with weater loaches, and
>>>       
>> now to the 55
>>     
>>> gal.....I have 6 long finned goldies, and I think 5
>>>       
>> weather loaches,
>>     
>>> along with 5 or 6 cories......Goldfish are quiet
>>>       
>> dirty, so have 2
>>     
>>> filters on this tank, a submersable fluval, and also a
>>>       
>> magnum canister
>>     
>>> filter.....so good filteration is a must with
>>>       
>> goldies.....
>>     
>>> Now with your friend, she has a 20 gal with 1 golfish,
>>>       
>> they say goldies
>>     
>>> need about 10 gal per fish, so she COULD add another,
>>>       
>> but given since
>>     
>>> she tried that already, and the one killed it, maybe
>>>       
>> adding another
>>     
>>> wouldnt be good.....she could add say 2 or 3 common Do
>>>       
>> Jo's {weather
>>     
>>> loach}, and say 4 cories, this would be about
>>>       
>> it.....BUT to keep in mind
>>     
>>> a larger tank for the future. The Do Jos like to be in
>>>       
>> groups, the more
>>     
>>> the better, as well as the cories...no less than 3 I
>>>       
>> would guess.....The
>>     
>>> green cories, seem to do the best with the colder
>>>       
>> water.....from what I
>>     
>>> have experienced....I have several other types, but
>>>       
>> the green seem to
>>     
>>> adapt the best.
>>>
>>> Any other question feel free to ask!!
>>>
>>> Trish
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Shamus Young
>>>       
>> <machismo@eskimo.com> wrote:
>>     
>>>> From: Shamus Young <machismo@eskimo.com>
>>>> Subject: [GSAS-Member]  Goldfish compatibility
>>>> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member
>>>>         
>> chat" <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
>>     
>>>> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 12:12 AM
>>>> Howdy:
>>>>
>>>> I've got a friend who inherited a goldfish in
>>>>         
>> a small
>>     
>>>> tank, circa 3 gal.
>>>> She's accquired a 20 gallon tank with an
>>>>         
>> eclipse hood,
>>     
>>>> and moved it into
>>>> that, which is a positive step.  It's about
>>>>         
>> 3"
>>     
>>>> now.  I don't think it's a
>>>> special type.  No long fins or weird eye things,
>>>>         
>> but I
>>     
>>>> don't know
>>>> goldfish.  To me, it looks like a large feeder
>>>>         
>> goldfish.
>>     
>>>> There's nothing
>>>> in there now but a few decorations.  She tried to
>>>>         
>> introduce
>>     
>>>> another
>>>> goldfish, but the one she has killed it.
>>>>
>>>> She wants to add companions.  I've pointed
>>>>         
>> out the
>>     
>>>> temperature thing, and
>>>> I know a few cold water fish like white clouds
>>>>         
>> and zebra
>>     
>>>> danios, but don't
>>>> know if they are actually compatible with
>>>>         
>> goldfish.  The
>>     
>>>> one article on
>>>> goldfish on the krib didn't really talk about
>>>> companions, and I got mixed
>>>> messages about it by just googling it (go
>>>>         
>> figure).  One
>>     
>>>> site recommends
>>>> zebra danios.  The other says that they will
>>>>         
>> out-compete
>>     
>>>> the goldfish for
>>>> food.  Another site recommended weather loaches.
>>>>
>>>> She seems determined to put some companions in
>>>>         
>> there.  In
>>     
>>>> an attempt to
>>>> avoid trial and error and get an informed
>>>>         
>> opinion, I'm
>>     
>>>> asking the group
>>>> for recommendations for goldfish companions.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Shamus
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I myself would add the Dojo but not the cories. To me the temp would be 
on the low end for the cories, so if the fishkeeper is inexperienced, 
why not use Dojos.  It is my experience that they are pretty much 
bulletproof. I have regular gravel, not fine sand and the dojos do fine. 
they do like a hiding space, but they are pretty tough and my dojo does 
not take any guff from the goldies at all.
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