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Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
- To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
- Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
- From: Trish <snips36@yahoo.com>
- Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:45:57 -0700 (PDT)
http://www.fishlore.com/Profiles-Corydoras.htm
I found this web site about temp for Corys....My Goldfish tank is around 70 or
so in winter months with no heat. and of course warmer in summer, about 74 or
so...The corys are fine.
Your right Do Jos almost seem bullet proof.....and as cute as anything!!! Gotta
love their faces!
Trish
--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Kypros Hostetter <Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu> wrote:
> From: Kypros Hostetter <Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu>
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat" <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 8:57 AM
> Trish wrote:
> > Shamus-
> >
> > If the gravel is smooth then the Cories, and Do Jos
> would be fine. They would make a good clean up crew with
> the food which makes it to the bottom....The Do Jos like to
> bury themselves, and just have their heads poking out, its
> very cute. I have sand as substrate, but have kept them
> with gravel as well, and they were fine. But they prefer
> the sand. The Goldfish is fine with either, and picks at
> both....
> >
> > Yes the cories are tropical, but they can withstand
> being without heat...my tanks stay at about 70 in the
> winter, and warmer in the summer, so temp wise they are
> fine.... Do Jos as well as Goldfish can go much
> colder.....
> >
> > OH and as to salt,its fine with the Goldfish, Do Jos,
> and the Cories....I have been using salt for years...great
> preventative, for diseases....I use salt on all my tanks.
> >
> > I would add the Do Jos and Cories, before adding
> another Goldfish.
> >
> > At least she did take the larger tank, this will help
> alot. Now just hope she keeps up on water changes.....this
> is the key, water changes, make for healthy and happy
> fishies....
> >
> > Trish
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Shamus Young
> <machismo@eskimo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> From: Shamus Young <machismo@eskimo.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
> >> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member
> chat" <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> >> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 8:22 PM
> >> Thanks to all who responded.
> >>
> >> I don't think there's any chance of
> getting a
> >> larger tank. It took enough
> >> cajoling to get her to take a free 20g tank to
> move the
> >> fish out of it's
> >> 3g.
> >>
> >> I look at this more as damage control than
> advising her on
> >> the perfect
> >> goldfish setup. The fish is in a better home.
> If she
> >> wants companions
> >> and is set on getting them, then steer her towards
> fish
> >> that are actually
> >> compatible.
> >>
> >> I'll push the zebras over white clouds.
> I'm a
> >> little reluctant to push
> >> corys, since I've always thought of them as
> tropical.
> >> I also seem to
> >> recall that she's got standard aquarium gravel
> in
> >> there, and IIRC, you
> >> want a fine substrate with Corys so they don't
> damage
> >> their barbels on
> >> the gravel. I'll confirm the substrate
> compatibility
> >> before I push
> >> loaches or corys.
> >>
> >> Has anyone tried mosquito fish? The cold water
> livebearer?
> >> it sounds
> >> like they might move too slow. I guess there
> would be
> >> concerns about salt
> >> content of the water. I don't know what
> goldfish like
> >> regarding salt, but
> >> from back in the dark ages when I raised
> livebearers, I
> >> added salt.
> >>
> >> Shamus
> >>
> >> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Trish wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Shamus-
> >>>
> >>> I have goldfish, in a 55 gallon now. And with
> them, I
> >>>
> >> keep the weather
> >>
> >>> loaches, and also some cories....with no
> heater, all
> >>>
> >> get along just
> >>
> >>> fine, and have been together in different
> tanks
> >>>
> >> through about 5 years
> >>
> >>> now....started smaller of course, as small as
> a 5
> >>>
> >> gallon with the
> >>
> >>> goldies, and up to a 30 long, with weater
> loaches, and
> >>>
> >> now to the 55
> >>
> >>> gal.....I have 6 long finned goldies, and I
> think 5
> >>>
> >> weather loaches,
> >>
> >>> along with 5 or 6 cories......Goldfish are
> quiet
> >>>
> >> dirty, so have 2
> >>
> >>> filters on this tank, a submersable fluval,
> and also a
> >>>
> >> magnum canister
> >>
> >>> filter.....so good filteration is a must with
> >>>
> >> goldies.....
> >>
> >>> Now with your friend, she has a 20 gal with 1
> golfish,
> >>>
> >> they say goldies
> >>
> >>> need about 10 gal per fish, so she COULD add
> another,
> >>>
> >> but given since
> >>
> >>> she tried that already, and the one killed it,
> maybe
> >>>
> >> adding another
> >>
> >>> wouldnt be good.....she could add say 2 or 3
> common Do
> >>>
> >> Jo's {weather
> >>
> >>> loach}, and say 4 cories, this would be about
> >>>
> >> it.....BUT to keep in mind
> >>
> >>> a larger tank for the future. The Do Jos like
> to be in
> >>>
> >> groups, the more
> >>
> >>> the better, as well as the cories...no less
> than 3 I
> >>>
> >> would guess.....The
> >>
> >>> green cories, seem to do the best with the
> colder
> >>>
> >> water.....from what I
> >>
> >>> have experienced....I have several other
> types, but
> >>>
> >> the green seem to
> >>
> >>> adapt the best.
> >>>
> >>> Any other question feel free to ask!!
> >>>
> >>> Trish
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Shamus Young
> >>>
> >> <machismo@eskimo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> From: Shamus Young
> <machismo@eskimo.com>
> >>>> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish
> compatibility
> >>>> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society
> member
> >>>>
> >> chat" <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> >>
> >>>> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 12:12 AM
> >>>> Howdy:
> >>>>
> >>>> I've got a friend who inherited a
> goldfish in
> >>>>
> >> a small
> >>
> >>>> tank, circa 3 gal.
> >>>> She's accquired a 20 gallon tank with
> an
> >>>>
> >> eclipse hood,
> >>
> >>>> and moved it into
> >>>> that, which is a positive step. It's
> about
> >>>>
> >> 3"
> >>
> >>>> now. I don't think it's a
> >>>> special type. No long fins or weird eye
> things,
> >>>>
> >> but I
> >>
> >>>> don't know
> >>>> goldfish. To me, it looks like a large
> feeder
> >>>>
> >> goldfish.
> >>
> >>>> There's nothing
> >>>> in there now but a few decorations. She
> tried to
> >>>>
> >> introduce
> >>
> >>>> another
> >>>> goldfish, but the one she has killed it.
> >>>>
> >>>> She wants to add companions. I've
> pointed
> >>>>
> >> out the
> >>
> >>>> temperature thing, and
> >>>> I know a few cold water fish like white
> clouds
> >>>>
> >> and zebra
> >>
> >>>> danios, but don't
> >>>> know if they are actually compatible with
> >>>>
> >> goldfish. The
> >>
> >>>> one article on
> >>>> goldfish on the krib didn't really
> talk about
> >>>> companions, and I got mixed
> >>>> messages about it by just googling it (go
> >>>>
> >> figure). One
> >>
> >>>> site recommends
> >>>> zebra danios. The other says that they
> will
> >>>>
> >> out-compete
> >>
> >>>> the goldfish for
> >>>> food. Another site recommended weather
> loaches.
> >>>>
> >>>> She seems determined to put some
> companions in
> >>>>
> >> there. In
> >>
> >>>> an attempt to
> >>>> avoid trial and error and get an informed
> >>>>
> >> opinion, I'm
> >>
> >>>> asking the group
> >>>> for recommendations for goldfish
> companions.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any ideas?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Shamus
> >>>>
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> I myself would add the Dojo but not the cories. To me the
> temp would be
> on the low end for the cories, so if the fishkeeper is
> inexperienced,
> why not use Dojos. It is my experience that they are
> pretty much
> bulletproof. I have regular gravel, not fine sand and the
> dojos do fine.
> they do like a hiding space, but they are pretty tough and
> my dojo does
> not take any guff from the goldies at all.
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