Mexican Oak Leaf sounds great. If the plants are lacey, they are decaying, most likely a nutrient deficiency. We can talk more about that when you come here. -----Original Message----- From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com [mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Connie Carlson Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:58 AM To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Daphnia in Season - and BUG I.D. OK, that sounds like fun! I need more buckets.... time to hit the local bakeries! Adopt-A-Stream? Say more! I would love to learn how to identify stuff in the local ponds. I need to do another scoop though; seems like a fresh sample is in order for something like that. The original bucket I grabbed is going through a very messy leaf-decaying stage or something; hard to see anything in it any more, but there are still a few things cruising around. It is not very green though; might be why things have died off. AND, Steevs explanation about the hydra liking the daphnia makes sense; maybe the darn hydra ate everything I originally scooped! Rotten hydra. I read somewhere there is a fish that thinks the hydra are delicious; time to seek out some of those! If I can only remember what they were or where I read that.... UM, I confess I have been very lazy about identifying plants properly, but I do know I have the following: cabombas, doing marginally well; mexican oak leaf, doing amazingly well; cryptocorn of some variety, doing pretty well; four or five other unidentified stem plants, also doing pretty well; a few corkscrew vals, doing marginally well; and several unidentified ferns, doing reasonably well, in my tanks. There are others, but all the rest I have gotten at the mini auctions or directly from club members, so stuff everyone already has anyway. I at least know what most of them are thanks to you all though - java moss, najas grass, water lettuce, watersprite, the dreaded duckweed, jungle val, riccia, hornwort... I still don't know what that variegated plant is that came from your gudgeon tank Susan. I really like it though, and it loves my tanks! Unfortunately the snails love it as much as I do, so some of the leaves have that snail-induced lacey look. ;+) If we are talking about plants I can share, the Mexican Oak Leaf I have a ton of, & maybe a few cabombas sprigs, but that is probably all I have to spare so far; all the rest are still growing out from the original stocks. Hopefully I will have more by the picnic! My tanks are pretty young; most of them got started in early June, but so far so good. Cheers, Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Welenofsky<mailto:welenofsky@comcast.net> To: 'Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat'<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Daphnia in Season Cool. Bring a sample by and maybe we can identify some of the stuff at Adopt-A-Stream. There's water fleas, a few phatom midges (the discus like them) and some small water beetles. 20-gallon Metaframe has a metal frame, and older style aquarium. What kind of plants do you have? I have Rubin and other swords, Water Hyacinth, Riccia and Bolbitus. Susan -----Original Message----- From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com> [mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Connie Carlson Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 12:51 AM To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Daphnia in Season Please excuse my ignorance, but what is a 20 gallon metaframe?? I might be able to get a bucket for you...and what kind of plants do you want? I am curious about the answer to Shangos question though; I scooped a bucket from that lagoon at Golden Gardens about three weeks ago, and was amazed at the variety of critters in it. The first thing I noticed was a LOT of weird whitish extending wormlike things, which after some research I think are the dreaded hydra! Hopefully a high daphnia population crowds out anything else unwanted. Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: matt kaufman<mailto:igotadose@hotmail.com<mailto:igotadose@hotmail.com>> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Daphnia in Season Sign me up! Will trade a 20 gallon metaframe for a bucket of daphnia + plants! 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