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Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
Connie:
I can't cut and paste with this java ssh client I use to read this account
from work, but it's
Misgurnus anguilicaudatus, the dojo or weather loach.
there's a wikipedia page.
Shamus
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Connie Carlson wrote:
> Again, please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly are Do Jos?? Can someone
> post a link to fishlore/fishgeeks/fishbase or throw out the scientific name
> so I can look them up? All this talk about them has me mighty curious.
>
> Thanks!
> Connie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Trish<mailto:snips36@yahoo.com>
> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member
> chat<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
>
>
>
>
> http://www.fishlore.com/Profiles-Corydoras.htm<http://www.fishlore.com/Profiles-Corydoras.htm>
>
> I found this web site about temp for Corys....My Goldfish tank is around 70
> or so in winter months with no heat. and of course warmer in summer, about 74
> or so...The corys are fine.
>
> Your right Do Jos almost seem bullet proof.....and as cute as anything!!!
> Gotta love their faces!
>
> Trish
>
> --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Kypros Hostetter
> <Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu<mailto:Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu>> wrote:
>
> > From: Kypros Hostetter
> <Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu<mailto:Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu>>
> > Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
> > To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat"
> <gsas-member@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>>
> > Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 8:57 AM
> > Trish wrote:
> > > Shamus-
> > >
> > > If the gravel is smooth then the Cories, and Do Jos
> > would be fine. They would make a good clean up crew with
> > the food which makes it to the bottom....The Do Jos like to
> > bury themselves, and just have their heads poking out, its
> > very cute. I have sand as substrate, but have kept them
> > with gravel as well, and they were fine. But they prefer
> > the sand. The Goldfish is fine with either, and picks at
> > both....
> > >
> > > Yes the cories are tropical, but they can withstand
> > being without heat...my tanks stay at about 70 in the
> > winter, and warmer in the summer, so temp wise they are
> > fine.... Do Jos as well as Goldfish can go much
> > colder.....
> > >
> > > OH and as to salt,its fine with the Goldfish, Do Jos,
> > and the Cories....I have been using salt for years...great
> > preventative, for diseases....I use salt on all my tanks.
> > >
> > > I would add the Do Jos and Cories, before adding
> > another Goldfish.
> > >
> > > At least she did take the larger tank, this will help
> > alot. Now just hope she keeps up on water changes.....this
> > is the key, water changes, make for healthy and happy
> > fishies....
> > >
> > > Trish
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Shamus Young
> > <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: Shamus Young <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com>>
> > >> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
> > >> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member
> > chat" <gsas-member@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>>
> > >> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 8:22 PM
> > >> Thanks to all who responded.
> > >>
> > >> I don't think there's any chance of
> > getting a
> > >> larger tank. It took enough
> > >> cajoling to get her to take a free 20g tank to
> > move the
> > >> fish out of it's
> > >> 3g.
> > >>
> > >> I look at this more as damage control than
> > advising her on
> > >> the perfect
> > >> goldfish setup. The fish is in a better home.
> > If she
> > >> wants companions
> > >> and is set on getting them, then steer her towards
> > fish
> > >> that are actually
> > >> compatible.
> > >>
> > >> I'll push the zebras over white clouds.
> > I'm a
> > >> little reluctant to push
> > >> corys, since I've always thought of them as
> > tropical.
> > >> I also seem to
> > >> recall that she's got standard aquarium gravel
> > in
> > >> there, and IIRC, you
> > >> want a fine substrate with Corys so they don't
> > damage
> > >> their barbels on
> > >> the gravel. I'll confirm the substrate
> > compatibility
> > >> before I push
> > >> loaches or corys.
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone tried mosquito fish? The cold water
> > livebearer?
> > >> it sounds
> > >> like they might move too slow. I guess there
> > would be
> > >> concerns about salt
> > >> content of the water. I don't know what
> > goldfish like
> > >> regarding salt, but
> > >> from back in the dark ages when I raised
> > livebearers, I
> > >> added salt.
> > >>
> > >> Shamus
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Trish wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Shamus-
> > >>>
> > >>> I have goldfish, in a 55 gallon now. And with
> > them, I
> > >>>
> > >> keep the weather
> > >>
> > >>> loaches, and also some cories....with no
> > heater, all
> > >>>
> > >> get along just
> > >>
> > >>> fine, and have been together in different
> > tanks
> > >>>
> > >> through about 5 years
> > >>
> > >>> now....started smaller of course, as small as
> > a 5
> > >>>
> > >> gallon with the
> > >>
> > >>> goldies, and up to a 30 long, with weater
> > loaches, and
> > >>>
> > >> now to the 55
> > >>
> > >>> gal.....I have 6 long finned goldies, and I
> > think 5
> > >>>
> > >> weather loaches,
> > >>
> > >>> along with 5 or 6 cories......Goldfish are
> > quiet
> > >>>
> > >> dirty, so have 2
> > >>
> > >>> filters on this tank, a submersable fluval,
> > and also a
> > >>>
> > >> magnum canister
> > >>
> > >>> filter.....so good filteration is a must with
> > >>>
> > >> goldies.....
> > >>
> > >>> Now with your friend, she has a 20 gal with 1
> > golfish,
> > >>>
> > >> they say goldies
> > >>
> > >>> need about 10 gal per fish, so she COULD add
> > another,
> > >>>
> > >> but given since
> > >>
> > >>> she tried that already, and the one killed it,
> > maybe
> > >>>
> > >> adding another
> > >>
> > >>> wouldnt be good.....she could add say 2 or 3
> > common Do
> > >>>
> > >> Jo's {weather
> > >>
> > >>> loach}, and say 4 cories, this would be about
> > >>>
> > >> it.....BUT to keep in mind
> > >>
> > >>> a larger tank for the future. The Do Jos like
> > to be in
> > >>>
> > >> groups, the more
> > >>
> > >>> the better, as well as the cories...no less
> > than 3 I
> > >>>
> > >> would guess.....The
> > >>
> > >>> green cories, seem to do the best with the
> > colder
> > >>>
> > >> water.....from what I
> > >>
> > >>> have experienced....I have several other
> > types, but
> > >>>
> > >> the green seem to
> > >>
> > >>> adapt the best.
> > >>>
> > >>> Any other question feel free to ask!!
> > >>>
> > >>> Trish
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Shamus Young
> > >>>
> > >> <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>> From: Shamus Young
> > <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com>>
> > >>>> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish
> > compatibility
> > >>>> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society
> > member
> > >>>>
> > >> chat" <gsas-member@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>>
> > >>
> > >>>> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 12:12 AM
> > >>>> Howdy:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I've got a friend who inherited a
> > goldfish in
> > >>>>
> > >> a small
> > >>
> > >>>> tank, circa 3 gal.
> > >>>> She's accquired a 20 gallon tank with
> > an
> > >>>>
> > >> eclipse hood,
> > >>
> > >>>> and moved it into
> > >>>> that, which is a positive step. It's
> > about
> > >>>>
> > >> 3"
> > >>
> > >>>> now. I don't think it's a
> > >>>> special type. No long fins or weird eye
> > things,
> > >>>>
> > >> but I
> > >>
> > >>>> don't know
> > >>>> goldfish. To me, it looks like a large
> > feeder
> > >>>>
> > >> goldfish.
> > >>
> > >>>> There's nothing
> > >>>> in there now but a few decorations. She
> > tried to
> > >>>>
> > >> introduce
> > >>
> > >>>> another
> > >>>> goldfish, but the one she has killed it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> She wants to add companions. I've
> > pointed
> > >>>>
> > >> out the
> > >>
> > >>>> temperature thing, and
> > >>>> I know a few cold water fish like white
> > clouds
> > >>>>
> > >> and zebra
> > >>
> > >>>> danios, but don't
> > >>>> know if they are actually compatible with
> > >>>>
> > >> goldfish. The
> > >>
> > >>>> one article on
> > >>>> goldfish on the krib didn't really
> > talk about
> > >>>> companions, and I got mixed
> > >>>> messages about it by just googling it (go
> > >>>>
> > >> figure). One
> > >>
> > >>>> site recommends
> > >>>> zebra danios. The other says that they
> > will
> > >>>>
> > >> out-compete
> > >>
> > >>>> the goldfish for
> > >>>> food. Another site recommended weather
> > loaches.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> She seems determined to put some
> > companions in
> > >>>>
> > >> there. In
> > >>
> > >>>> an attempt to
> > >>>> avoid trial and error and get an informed
> > >>>>
> > >> opinion, I'm
> > >>
> > >>>> asking the group
> > >>>> for recommendations for goldfish
> > companions.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any ideas?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Shamus
> > >>>>
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> > I myself would add the Dojo but not the cories. To me the
> > temp would be
> > on the low end for the cories, so if the fishkeeper is
> > inexperienced,
> > why not use Dojos. It is my experience that they are
> > pretty much
> > bulletproof. I have regular gravel, not fine sand and the
> > dojos do fine.
> > they do like a hiding space, but they are pretty tough and
> > my dojo does
> > not take any guff from the goldies at all.
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