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Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
- To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
- Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
- From: Trish <snips36@yahoo.com>
- Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:21:56 -0700 (PDT)
http://freshaquarium.about.com/cs/loaches1/p/weatherloach.htm
Their is also a Golden Do JO, which doesnt get as large, but it is more
expensive.
The guys are so fun to watch, especially when in groups...they get along with
ALMOST anything....most tropical anyways....but not Cichlids, they are to timid
for these I think.
I have around 4 or 5 of the common ones in my 55 gallon, and 3 Golden in my 40
gal. They prefer cooler water, verses heated water.....
I am going to making a pond next year I hope, and want to maybe try some in
their for the summer, but they are so fast, am affraid they may jump out?
Just type in Do Jo loach, or Weather Loach, and you'll find something....you
can even go to Loaches.com I think is the web site....Their is alot of info on
them. In some countries they even eat them, in soups....
Trish
--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Connie Carlson <nwconniec@hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Connie Carlson <nwconniec@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat" <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 11:06 AM
> Again, please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly are Do
> Jos?? Can someone post a link to
> fishlore/fishgeeks/fishbase or throw out the scientific
> name so I can look them up? All this talk about them has
> me mighty curious.
>
> Thanks!
> Connie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Trish<mailto:snips36@yahoo.com>
> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member
> chat<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
>
>
>
>
> http://www.fishlore.com/Profiles-Corydoras.htm<http://www.fishlore.com/Profiles-Corydoras.htm>
>
> I found this web site about temp for Corys....My Goldfish
> tank is around 70 or so in winter months with no heat. and
> of course warmer in summer, about 74 or so...The corys are
> fine.
>
> Your right Do Jos almost seem bullet proof.....and as
> cute as anything!!! Gotta love their faces!
>
> Trish
>
> --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Kypros Hostetter
> <Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu<mailto:Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu>>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Kypros Hostetter
> <Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu<mailto:Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu>>
> > Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
> > To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member
> chat"
> <gsas-member@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>>
> > Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 8:57 AM
> > Trish wrote:
> > > Shamus-
> > >
> > > If the gravel is smooth then the Cories, and Do
> Jos
> > would be fine. They would make a good clean up crew
> with
> > the food which makes it to the bottom....The Do Jos
> like to
> > bury themselves, and just have their heads poking
> out, its
> > very cute. I have sand as substrate, but have kept
> them
> > with gravel as well, and they were fine. But they
> prefer
> > the sand. The Goldfish is fine with either, and
> picks at
> > both....
> > >
> > > Yes the cories are tropical, but they can
> withstand
> > being without heat...my tanks stay at about 70 in
> the
> > winter, and warmer in the summer, so temp wise they
> are
> > fine.... Do Jos as well as Goldfish can go much
> > colder.....
> > >
> > > OH and as to salt,its fine with the Goldfish,
> Do Jos,
> > and the Cories....I have been using salt for
> years...great
> > preventative, for diseases....I use salt on all my
> tanks.
> > >
> > > I would add the Do Jos and Cories, before
> adding
> > another Goldfish.
> > >
> > > At least she did take the larger tank, this
> will help
> > alot. Now just hope she keeps up on water
> changes.....this
> > is the key, water changes, make for healthy and
> happy
> > fishies....
> > >
> > > Trish
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Shamus Young
> >
> <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: Shamus Young
> <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com>>
> > >> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish
> compatibility
> > >> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society
> member
> > chat"
> <gsas-member@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>>
> > >> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 8:22 PM
> > >> Thanks to all who responded.
> > >>
> > >> I don't think there's any chance of
> > getting a
> > >> larger tank. It took enough
> > >> cajoling to get her to take a free 20g tank
> to
> > move the
> > >> fish out of it's
> > >> 3g.
> > >>
> > >> I look at this more as damage control than
> > advising her on
> > >> the perfect
> > >> goldfish setup. The fish is in a better
> home.
> > If she
> > >> wants companions
> > >> and is set on getting them, then steer her
> towards
> > fish
> > >> that are actually
> > >> compatible.
> > >>
> > >> I'll push the zebras over white clouds.
>
> > I'm a
> > >> little reluctant to push
> > >> corys, since I've always thought of
> them as
> > tropical.
> > >> I also seem to
> > >> recall that she's got standard aquarium
> gravel
> > in
> > >> there, and IIRC, you
> > >> want a fine substrate with Corys so they
> don't
> > damage
> > >> their barbels on
> > >> the gravel. I'll confirm the substrate
> > compatibility
> > >> before I push
> > >> loaches or corys.
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone tried mosquito fish? The cold
> water
> > livebearer?
> > >> it sounds
> > >> like they might move too slow. I guess
> there
> > would be
> > >> concerns about salt
> > >> content of the water. I don't know
> what
> > goldfish like
> > >> regarding salt, but
> > >> from back in the dark ages when I raised
> > livebearers, I
> > >> added salt.
> > >>
> > >> Shamus
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Trish wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Shamus-
> > >>>
> > >>> I have goldfish, in a 55 gallon now.
> And with
> > them, I
> > >>>
> > >> keep the weather
> > >>
> > >>> loaches, and also some cories....with
> no
> > heater, all
> > >>>
> > >> get along just
> > >>
> > >>> fine, and have been together in
> different
> > tanks
> > >>>
> > >> through about 5 years
> > >>
> > >>> now....started smaller of course, as
> small as
> > a 5
> > >>>
> > >> gallon with the
> > >>
> > >>> goldies, and up to a 30 long, with
> weater
> > loaches, and
> > >>>
> > >> now to the 55
> > >>
> > >>> gal.....I have 6 long finned goldies,
> and I
> > think 5
> > >>>
> > >> weather loaches,
> > >>
> > >>> along with 5 or 6 cories......Goldfish
> are
> > quiet
> > >>>
> > >> dirty, so have 2
> > >>
> > >>> filters on this tank, a submersable
> fluval,
> > and also a
> > >>>
> > >> magnum canister
> > >>
> > >>> filter.....so good filteration is a
> must with
> > >>>
> > >> goldies.....
> > >>
> > >>> Now with your friend, she has a 20 gal
> with 1
> > golfish,
> > >>>
> > >> they say goldies
> > >>
> > >>> need about 10 gal per fish, so she
> COULD add
> > another,
> > >>>
> > >> but given since
> > >>
> > >>> she tried that already, and the one
> killed it,
> > maybe
> > >>>
> > >> adding another
> > >>
> > >>> wouldnt be good.....she could add say 2
> or 3
> > common Do
> > >>>
> > >> Jo's {weather
> > >>
> > >>> loach}, and say 4 cories, this would be
> about
> > >>>
> > >> it.....BUT to keep in mind
> > >>
> > >>> a larger tank for the future. The Do
> Jos like
> > to be in
> > >>>
> > >> groups, the more
> > >>
> > >>> the better, as well as the cories...no
> less
> > than 3 I
> > >>>
> > >> would guess.....The
> > >>
> > >>> green cories, seem to do the best with
> the
> > colder
> > >>>
> > >> water.....from what I
> > >>
> > >>> have experienced....I have several
> other
> > types, but
> > >>>
> > >> the green seem to
> > >>
> > >>> adapt the best.
> > >>>
> > >>> Any other question feel free to ask!!
> > >>>
> > >>> Trish
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Shamus Young
> > >>>
> > >>
> <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com>>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>> From: Shamus Young
> >
> <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com>>
> > >>>> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish
> > compatibility
> > >>>> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium
> Society
> > member
> > >>>>
> > >> chat"
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> > >>
> > >>>> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008,
> 12:12 AM
> > >>>> Howdy:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I've got a friend who inherited
> a
> > goldfish in
> > >>>>
> > >> a small
> > >>
> > >>>> tank, circa 3 gal.
> > >>>> She's accquired a 20 gallon
> tank with
> > an
> > >>>>
> > >> eclipse hood,
> > >>
> > >>>> and moved it into
> > >>>> that, which is a positive step.
> It's
> > about
> > >>>>
> > >> 3"
> > >>
> > >>>> now. I don't think it's a
> > >>>> special type. No long fins or
> weird eye
> > things,
> > >>>>
> > >> but I
> > >>
> > >>>> don't know
> > >>>> goldfish. To me, it looks like a
> large
> > feeder
> > >>>>
> > >> goldfish.
> > >>
> > >>>> There's nothing
> > >>>> in there now but a few decorations.
> She
> > tried to
> > >>>>
> > >> introduce
> > >>
> > >>>> another
> > >>>> goldfish, but the one she has
> killed it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> She wants to add companions.
> I've
> > pointed
> > >>>>
> > >> out the
> > >>
> > >>>> temperature thing, and
> > >>>> I know a few cold water fish like
> white
> > clouds
> > >>>>
> > >> and zebra
> > >>
> > >>>> danios, but don't
> > >>>> know if they are actually
> compatible with
> > >>>>
> > >> goldfish. The
> > >>
> > >>>> one article on
> > >>>> goldfish on the krib didn't
> really
> > talk about
> > >>>> companions, and I got mixed
> > >>>> messages about it by just googling
> it (go
> > >>>>
> > >> figure). One
> > >>
> > >>>> site recommends
> > >>>> zebra danios. The other says that
> they
> > will
> > >>>>
> > >> out-compete
> > >>
> > >>>> the goldfish for
> > >>>> food. Another site recommended
> weather
> > loaches.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> She seems determined to put some
> > companions in
> > >>>>
> > >> there. In
> > >>
> > >>>> an attempt to
> > >>>> avoid trial and error and get an
> informed
> > >>>>
> > >> opinion, I'm
> > >>
> > >>>> asking the group
> > >>>> for recommendations for goldfish
> > companions.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any ideas?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Shamus
> > >>>>
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> > I myself would add the Dojo but not the cories. To
> me the
> > temp would be
> > on the low end for the cories, so if the fishkeeper
> is
> > inexperienced,
> > why not use Dojos. It is my experience that they
> are
> > pretty much
> > bulletproof. I have regular gravel, not fine sand
> and the
> > dojos do fine.
> > they do like a hiding space, but they are pretty
> tough and
> > my dojo does
> > not take any guff from the goldies at all.
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