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Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
- To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
- Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
- From: Trish <snips36@yahoo.com>
- Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:21:27 -0700 (PDT)
Its true they do.....for they love to bury themselves.....the only plants I
have found to work, is an Amazon Sword, because they have such an exstensive
root system, it seems they can hold on better....the Do Jos even move my Java
Fern around....very frustrating....But I love them, they are just so darn cute!!
Trish
--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Dianna Phillips <cyrice37@hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Dianna Phillips <cyrice37@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat" <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 12:48 PM
> Has anyone had any luck with dojos and plants? I've read
> in the past that they root them up worse than the goldfish
> do.
>
> Dianna
>
> > Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:25:19 -0700
> > From: machismo@eskimo.com
> > To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> > Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
> >
> > Connie:
> > I can't cut and paste with this java ssh client I
> use to read this account
> > from work, but it's
> > Misgurnus anguilicaudatus, the dojo or weather loach.
> > there's a wikipedia page.
> >
> > Shamus
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Connie Carlson wrote:
> >
> > > Again, please excuse my ignorance, but what
> exactly are Do Jos?? Can someone post a link to
> fishlore/fishgeeks/fishbase or throw out the scientific
> name so I can look them up? All this talk about them has
> me mighty curious.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Connie
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Trish<mailto:snips36@yahoo.com>
> > > To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member
> chat<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:45 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish
> compatibility
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://www.fishlore.com/Profiles-Corydoras.htm<http://www.fishlore.com/Profiles-Corydoras.htm>
> > >
> > > I found this web site about temp for
> Corys....My Goldfish tank is around 70 or so in winter
> months with no heat. and of course warmer in summer, about
> 74 or so...The corys are fine.
> > >
> > > Your right Do Jos almost seem bullet
> proof.....and as cute as anything!!! Gotta love their
> faces!
> > >
> > > Trish
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Kypros Hostetter
> <Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu<mailto:Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Kypros Hostetter
> <Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu<mailto:Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu>>
> > > > Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish
> compatibility
> > > > To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society
> member chat"
> <gsas-member@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>>
> > > > Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 8:57 AM
> > > > Trish wrote:
> > > > > Shamus-
> > > > >
> > > > > If the gravel is smooth then the
> Cories, and Do Jos
> > > > would be fine. They would make a good
> clean up crew with
> > > > the food which makes it to the
> bottom....The Do Jos like to
> > > > bury themselves, and just have their heads
> poking out, its
> > > > very cute. I have sand as substrate, but
> have kept them
> > > > with gravel as well, and they were fine.
> But they prefer
> > > > the sand. The Goldfish is fine with
> either, and picks at
> > > > both....
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes the cories are tropical, but they
> can withstand
> > > > being without heat...my tanks stay at
> about 70 in the
> > > > winter, and warmer in the summer, so temp
> wise they are
> > > > fine.... Do Jos as well as Goldfish can
> go much
> > > > colder.....
> > > > >
> > > > > OH and as to salt,its fine with the
> Goldfish, Do Jos,
> > > > and the Cories....I have been using salt
> for years...great
> > > > preventative, for diseases....I use salt
> on all my tanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would add the Do Jos and Cories,
> before adding
> > > > another Goldfish.
> > > > >
> > > > > At least she did take the larger
> tank, this will help
> > > > alot. Now just hope she keeps up on water
> changes.....this
> > > > is the key, water changes, make for
> healthy and happy
> > > > fishies....
> > > > >
> > > > > Trish
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Shamus Young
> > > >
> <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com>>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> From: Shamus Young
> <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com>>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member]
> Goldfish compatibility
> > > > >> To: "Greater Seattle
> Aquarium Society member
> > > > chat"
> <gsas-member@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>>
> > > > >> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008,
> 8:22 PM
> > > > >> Thanks to all who responded.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I don't think there's any
> chance of
> > > > getting a
> > > > >> larger tank. It took enough
> > > > >> cajoling to get her to take a
> free 20g tank to
> > > > move the
> > > > >> fish out of it's
> > > > >> 3g.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I look at this more as damage
> control than
> > > > advising her on
> > > > >> the perfect
> > > > >> goldfish setup. The fish is in a
> better home.
> > > > If she
> > > > >> wants companions
> > > > >> and is set on getting them, then
> steer her towards
> > > > fish
> > > > >> that are actually
> > > > >> compatible.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'll push the zebras over
> white clouds.
> > > > I'm a
> > > > >> little reluctant to push
> > > > >> corys, since I've always
> thought of them as
> > > > tropical.
> > > > >> I also seem to
> > > > >> recall that she's got
> standard aquarium gravel
> > > > in
> > > > >> there, and IIRC, you
> > > > >> want a fine substrate with Corys
> so they don't
> > > > damage
> > > > >> their barbels on
> > > > >> the gravel. I'll confirm the
> substrate
> > > > compatibility
> > > > >> before I push
> > > > >> loaches or corys.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Has anyone tried mosquito fish?
> The cold water
> > > > livebearer?
> > > > >> it sounds
> > > > >> like they might move too slow. I
> guess there
> > > > would be
> > > > >> concerns about salt
> > > > >> content of the water. I
> don't know what
> > > > goldfish like
> > > > >> regarding salt, but
> > > > >> from back in the dark ages when I
> raised
> > > > livebearers, I
> > > > >> added salt.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Shamus
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Trish wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi Shamus-
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I have goldfish, in a 55
> gallon now. And with
> > > > them, I
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> keep the weather
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> loaches, and also some
> cories....with no
> > > > heater, all
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> get along just
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> fine, and have been together
> in different
> > > > tanks
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> through about 5 years
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> now....started smaller of
> course, as small as
> > > > a 5
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> gallon with the
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> goldies, and up to a 30 long,
> with weater
> > > > loaches, and
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> now to the 55
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> gal.....I have 6 long finned
> goldies, and I
> > > > think 5
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> weather loaches,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> along with 5 or 6
> cories......Goldfish are
> > > > quiet
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> dirty, so have 2
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> filters on this tank, a
> submersable fluval,
> > > > and also a
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> magnum canister
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> filter.....so good
> filteration is a must with
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> goldies.....
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Now with your friend, she has
> a 20 gal with 1
> > > > golfish,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> they say goldies
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> need about 10 gal per fish,
> so she COULD add
> > > > another,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> but given since
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> she tried that already, and
> the one killed it,
> > > > maybe
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> adding another
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> wouldnt be good.....she could
> add say 2 or 3
> > > > common Do
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> Jo's {weather
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> loach}, and say 4 cories,
> this would be about
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> it.....BUT to keep in mind
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> a larger tank for the future.
> The Do Jos like
> > > > to be in
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> groups, the more
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> the better, as well as the
> cories...no less
> > > > than 3 I
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> would guess.....The
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> green cories, seem to do the
> best with the
> > > > colder
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> water.....from what I
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> have experienced....I have
> several other
> > > > types, but
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> the green seem to
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> adapt the best.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Any other question feel free
> to ask!!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Trish
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Shamus
> Young
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com>>
> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> From: Shamus Young
> > > >
> <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com>>
> > > > >>>> Subject: [GSAS-Member]
> Goldfish
> > > > compatibility
> > > > >>>> To: "Greater Seattle
> Aquarium Society
> > > > member
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> chat"
> <gsas-member@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> Date: Thursday, July 10,
> 2008, 12:12 AM
> > > > >>>> Howdy:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I've got a friend who
> inherited a
> > > > goldfish in
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> a small
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> tank, circa 3 gal.
> > > > >>>> She's accquired a 20
> gallon tank with
> > > > an
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> eclipse hood,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> and moved it into
> > > > >>>> that, which is a positive
> step. It's
> > > > about
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> 3"
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> now. I don't think
> it's a
> > > > >>>> special type. No long
> fins or weird eye
> > > > things,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> but I
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> don't know
> > > > >>>> goldfish. To me, it
> looks like a large
> > > > feeder
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> goldfish.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> There's nothing
> > > > >>>> in there now but a few
> decorations. She
> > > > tried to
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> introduce
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> another
> > > > >>>> goldfish, but the one she
> has killed it.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> She wants to add
> companions. I've
> > > > pointed
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> out the
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> temperature thing, and
> > > > >>>> I know a few cold water
> fish like white
> > > > clouds
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> and zebra
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> danios, but don't
> > > > >>>> know if they are actually
> compatible with
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> goldfish. The
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> one article on
> > > > >>>> goldfish on the krib
> didn't really
> > > > talk about
> > > > >>>> companions, and I got
> mixed
> > > > >>>> messages about it by just
> googling it (go
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> figure). One
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> site recommends
> > > > >>>> zebra danios. The other
> says that they
> > > > will
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> out-compete
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> the goldfish for
> > > > >>>> food. Another site
> recommended weather
> > > > loaches.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> She seems determined to
> put some
> > > > companions in
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> there. In
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> an attempt to
> > > > >>>> avoid trial and error and
> get an informed
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >> opinion, I'm
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> asking the group
> > > > >>>> for recommendations for
> goldfish
> > > > companions.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Any ideas?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Shamus
> > > > >>>>
> > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > I myself would add the Dojo but not the
> cories. To me the
> > > > temp would be
> > > > on the low end for the cories, so if the
> fishkeeper is
> > > > inexperienced,
> > > > why not use Dojos. It is my experience
> that they are
> > > > pretty much
> > > > bulletproof. I have regular gravel, not
> fine sand and the
> > > > dojos do fine.
> > > > they do like a hiding space, but they are
> pretty tough and
> > > > my dojo does
> > > > not take any guff from the goldies at all.
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