[GSAS-Member] koi

[Steev Ward <steevward@yahoo.com>]

There are many color varieties of koi; many of which I can't remember the names 
of and
some I've never seen. I just moved a bunch of them so that the ones that breed 
will be
the colors and scale-types that I like, mostly blue and white patterns - some 
"Doitsu"
scales and some Diamond Scale (glittery) and one very bright metallic platinum 
(see
attached picture if this works). 

I keep the koi outside all year. Some koi nuts bring them in or heat the pond a 
little
in the winter. Mine have done pretty well outside for the last 15 or so years. 
Last
year I brought the fry indoors but that was so much work I've decided to avoid 
that
when I can. The fry that stayed in the pond (that survived) were MUCH bigger 
than the
ones I kept inside.

Sometimes people think of big fish as they do big dogs; that they will get to 
their
"adult" size in short order, but that's not the way it goes with koi. You could 
have a
little koi for a year indoors and not have him get very big, if he doesn't pig 
out all
the time. A really big koi is probably a really old koi. A friend of mine has a 
young
one in a fish bowl and he seems quite happy. He'll eventually get too big of 
course.
Outdoors they grow fast, but still that's only a couple inches a year.

Steev

--- Betty Goetz <haika@drizzle.com> wrote:

> I've seen some pretty neat looking white comet goldfish with long flowing
> fins. All my current white comets have the wild-type stubby fins.
> 
> Betty Goetz
> 
> > Can koi handle our winters, or do you take them inside when it gets cold?
> >
> > I know nothing about koi, but recently happened onto some cool photos of
> > fancy glowing white fish with long flowing white fins.  Are the eggs you
> > have from a fancy variety or a more "goldfish" looking variety?  (and no
> > offense meant to the goldfish aficionados...just didn't know how else to
> > ask!).
> >
> > Cliff
> >
> >>    I just grabbed out a bunch of plant roots with eggs all over them and
> >> threw them in
> >> a tub. Don't really know what I'm going to do with them all. I'm taking
> >> pictures of the
> >> spawning - we will definately have a lot of talk about ponds in the
> >> September
> >> newsletter.
> >>
> >>
> >> Steev
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Connie Carlson <nwconniec@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey, glad to help!  It was great fun wading around in your pond with
> >>> nets, and thanks
> >>> for the 3 little souvenirs!  They are getting bigger...   ;+)
> >>>
> >>> Very sorry to hear you lost one though.  Rotten raccoons!  The perils
> >>> of
> >>> overlapping
> >>> territories I suppose.
> >>>
> >>> In case anyone doesn't know, Steev has about a dozen of the biggest koi
> >>> I have EVER
> >>> seen; they are bigger than sockeye salmon.  I was amazed, and wish I
> >>> had
> >>> a photo of
> >>> him wrestling with them in that net!  Maybe next year.
> >>>
> >>> How many eggs did you get?
> >>> Connie
> >>>   ----- Original Message -----
> >>>   From: Steev Ward<mailto:steevward@yahoo.com>
> >>>   To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member
> >>> chat<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> >>>   Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:56 AM
> >>>   Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] pond discussions
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   On the bright side: I just checked, and the koi in big pond are
> >>> laying
> >>> eggs like
> >>> crazy.
> >>>   Thanks Connie, for helping get that pond ready - it worked! I think
> >>> I'll go collect
> >>>   some eggs.
> >>>
> >>>   Steev
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   --- Betty Goetz <haika@drizzle.com<mailto:haika@drizzle.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   > I know I know....I've been through similar experiences with my
> >>> chickens
> >>>   > and raccoons (sigh). I put heavy metal dog crate wire floor pieces
> >>> over my
> >>>   > smaller mini-ponds (because my dogs EAT waterlilies....grump), but
> >>> I'm
> >>>   > thinking the stock ponds are too deep/high. Maybe I'm naive (weak
> >>>   > grin).....I've heard of swimming raccoons but not ones that dive
> >>> down
> >>>   > roughly 4'.
> >>>   >
> >>>   > Betty Goetz - PONDering the raccoon issue (get it????)
> >>>   >
> >>>   > >     I try to take every precaution against racoon assaults, but I
> >>> just
> >>>   > > lost one 10 inch
> >>>   > > koi yesterday. I was keeping him in a large tub, with a lid,
> >>> because he
> >>>   > > seemed skinnier
> >>>   > > than the rest and I left the lid off so I could watch and see if
> >>> he was
> >>>   > > eating his
> >>>   > > food. I forgot to put it back on before I went to bed and the
> >>> next
> >>> day he
> >>>   > > was in pieces
> >>>   > > on the lawn.
> >>>   > >      It guess it takes something like that to remind me to not
> >>> take
> >>>   > > chances when it
> >>>   > > comes to raccoons.
> >>>   > >
> >>>   > > Steev
> >>>   >
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