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Re: [GSAS-Member] koi
Steev or anyone else,
Thinking of installing/building a pond in the new digs. Can you recommend a
guide or ref. on doing this.
Thanks!
-Don Rudee
--- On Mon, 7/14/08, Steev Ward <steevward@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Steev Ward <steevward@yahoo.com>
Subject: [GSAS-Member] koi
To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat" <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 6:09 PM
There are many color varieties of koi; many of which I can't remember the
names of and
some I've never seen. I just moved a bunch of them so that the ones that
breed will be
the colors and scale-types that I like, mostly blue and white patterns - some
"Doitsu"
scales and some Diamond Scale (glittery) and one very bright metallic platinum
(see
attached picture if this works).
I keep the koi outside all year. Some koi nuts bring them in or heat the pond a
little
in the winter. Mine have done pretty well outside for the last 15 or so years.
Last
year I brought the fry indoors but that was so much work I've decided to
avoid that
when I can. The fry that stayed in the pond (that survived) were MUCH bigger
than the
ones I kept inside.
Sometimes people think of big fish as they do big dogs; that they will get to
their
"adult" size in short order, but that's not the way it goes with
koi. You could have a
little koi for a year indoors and not have him get very big, if he doesn't
pig out all
the time. A really big koi is probably a really old koi. A friend of mine has a
young
one in a fish bowl and he seems quite happy. He'll eventually get too big
of course.
Outdoors they grow fast, but still that's only a couple inches a year.
Steev
--- Betty Goetz <haika@drizzle.com> wrote:
> I've seen some pretty neat looking white comet goldfish with long
flowing
> fins. All my current white comets have the wild-type stubby fins.
>
> Betty Goetz
>
> > Can koi handle our winters, or do you take them inside when it gets
cold?
> >
> > I know nothing about koi, but recently happened onto some cool photos
of
> > fancy glowing white fish with long flowing white fins. Are the eggs
you
> > have from a fancy variety or a more "goldfish" looking
variety? (and no
> > offense meant to the goldfish aficionados...just didn't know how
else to
> > ask!).
> >
> > Cliff
> >
> >> I just grabbed out a bunch of plant roots with eggs all over
them and
> >> threw them in
> >> a tub. Don't really know what I'm going to do with them
all. I'm taking
> >> pictures of the
> >> spawning - we will definately have a lot of talk about ponds in
the
> >> September
> >> newsletter.
> >>
> >>
> >> Steev
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Connie Carlson <nwconniec@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey, glad to help! It was great fun wading around in your
pond with
> >>> nets, and thanks
> >>> for the 3 little souvenirs! They are getting bigger... ;+)
> >>>
> >>> Very sorry to hear you lost one though. Rotten raccoons!
The perils
> >>> of
> >>> overlapping
> >>> territories I suppose.
> >>>
> >>> In case anyone doesn't know, Steev has about a dozen of
the biggest koi
> >>> I have EVER
> >>> seen; they are bigger than sockeye salmon. I was amazed, and
wish I
> >>> had
> >>> a photo of
> >>> him wrestling with them in that net! Maybe next year.
> >>>
> >>> How many eggs did you get?
> >>> Connie
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Steev Ward<mailto:steevward@yahoo.com>
> >>> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member
> >>> chat<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> >>> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:56 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] pond discussions
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On the bright side: I just checked, and the koi in big pond
are
> >>> laying
> >>> eggs like
> >>> crazy.
> >>> Thanks Connie, for helping get that pond ready - it worked!
I think
> >>> I'll go collect
> >>> some eggs.
> >>>
> >>> Steev
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- Betty Goetz
<haika@drizzle.com<mailto:haika@drizzle.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > I know I know....I've been through similar
experiences with my
> >>> chickens
> >>> > and raccoons (sigh). I put heavy metal dog crate wire
floor pieces
> >>> over my
> >>> > smaller mini-ponds (because my dogs EAT
waterlilies....grump), but
> >>> I'm
> >>> > thinking the stock ponds are too deep/high. Maybe
I'm naive (weak
> >>> > grin).....I've heard of swimming raccoons but not
ones that dive
> >>> down
> >>> > roughly 4'.
> >>> >
> >>> > Betty Goetz - PONDering the raccoon issue (get it????)
> >>> >
> >>> > > I try to take every precaution against racoon
assaults, but I
> >>> just
> >>> > > lost one 10 inch
> >>> > > koi yesterday. I was keeping him in a large tub,
with a lid,
> >>> because he
> >>> > > seemed skinnier
> >>> > > than the rest and I left the lid off so I could
watch and see if
> >>> he was
> >>> > > eating his
> >>> > > food. I forgot to put it back on before I went to
bed and the
> >>> next
> >>> day he
> >>> > > was in pieces
> >>> > > on the lawn.
> >>> > > It guess it takes something like that to
remind me to not
> >>> take
> >>> > > chances when it
> >>> > > comes to raccoons.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Steev
> >>> >
> >>> > _____
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