Re: [GSAS-Member] Koi grow-out contest

["Betty Goetz" <haika@drizzle.com>]

I have to keep reminding myself that all the golden hamsters we have come
from a very limited gene pool and they aren't immune system weenies. So,
that's the OTHER way things can go. If you don't start the game with a
bunch of deleterious recessives lurking, sailing is much smoother (grin).

Betty Goetz

> And that's more "web talk." When we say that an animal is inbred, it
> implies that there
> is a restricted gene pool and little selection against deleterious gene
> types. Given
> the countless number of koi breeders who have selected fish over time and
> the care that
> goes into selecting breeders it may well be that koi have a BETTER immune
> system than
> many wild fish. Maybe more genetic diversity too.
>
> But yes,  relaaaxxxxxxx and see what happens.
> Steev
>
>
>
>
> --- Betty Goetz <haika@drizzle.com> wrote:
>
>> If I remember the link, they inferred that koi were more inbred than
>> most
>> fish and hence had weak immune systems. I didn't keep a bookmark for
>> that
>> link. Without knowing tons about the history of koi, that made 'some'
>> biological sense. But it sounds like I can put them in the old Dario
>> dario
>> tank downstairs where I'll be able to moniter them closely. And just
>> relaaaxxxxxxx........
>>
>> Betty Goetz
>>
>> > Betty
>> > No, that's just "web talk." I imagine the person is theorizing that
>> one
>> > should not
>> > expose baby fish to pathogens unnecessarily. An old tank with "stuff"
>> > growing in it
>> > sounds great to me. The average fish tank has enough small things (the
>> > little worms and
>> > cyclops, etc. that people are always complaining about) to feed a
>> bunch of
>> > baby koi in
>> > their early days. They are actually great scavengers.
>> >
>> > Steev
>> >
>> >
>> > --- Betty Goetz <haika@drizzle.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm excited! Now, I've been reading up on growing out koi fry and
>> read
>> >> something that concerned me. One website suggested that koi fry are
>> very
>> >> weak and have poor immune systems, so they need to be put in water
>> that
>> >> hasn't had other fish in it? Sounded wierd to me, but I'm no expert!
>> IS
>> >> this true? It'll affect where I put these fry...I've got some tanks
>> with
>> >> lots of infusoria that had fish in them about 2 months ago.
>> Steev...is
>> >> that safe? I don't want to kill these little guys as soon as I get
>> them
>> >> (blush).
>> >>
>> >> Betty Goetz
>>
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