Hey Cliff, That might have been me; I originally got it online from a guy in Louisiana - Baylees Fishes (off Aquabid). I am afraid all that I had has since died though; symptoms I am sure of a lack of CO2 and not paying enough attention to the lighting or regularly fertilizing. He had great prices though, and terrific plants, AND the shipping was included.... will send you a link/email if you want. Connie For cabomba: who in the group did I get the bright red cabomba from? I'd like to buy some more if you have any extra. Cliff _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member