I ended up losing 3 shubunkins outside and emptying the entire 100g stock tank to bring the rest (6) into the house since they are hard to net with all the waterlily vegetation. I only found one young-of-the-year fry although there had been quite a few small fry a month ago. Those fish are eating well and getting daily water changes since the tank is so small (~ 40 g rubbermaid bin). This is the only tank where the fish seemed stressed. The two 150g tanks continued to get morning and evening fresh water changes to cool things down as long as the temperatures were above 90F and I had large sheets of cardboard over them tilted at an angle with the highest end towards the house to maximize air circulation. I'd lost my old white comet from one of these. My solar airstones got shipped today (weak grin). The sarasa tank is FULL of 1" + babies (probably 30 or so but it's hard to count the black ones) and the fish are much more lively with the cooler temperatures. Some of those little ones are already quite orange....makes me wonder more about what's gonna happen with the black ones (sigh). The koi seem fine and are the most interested in food of all outside tanks. The babies (4 left) from last year's koi grow-out contest are getting so big now! I'm estimating 8" or so for the biggest ones. Two are almost as large (about 2/3 the size) as the 2 year old from the koi show purchased in 2008. Lessons learned: 1. Above-ground BLACK stock tanks on the south side of the house with no water circulation need help when the temperatures get above 90F. 2. The tanks with parrotfeather SEEM to be happier/healthier than the tanks without(shubunkin tank). So I have put a pot full of cuttings in the shubunkin tank and will move the shubunkis back outside once those cuttings root enough to stay in the pot (grin). Problem solving: 1. Purchase solar airstones since no electrical service is present on the exterior south side of the house. Next time I'll have them on hand! 2. Shading of tanks - Move larger potted trees around the tanks to help shade and place barrier over top. Need to shade both top and sides to minimize heating. 3. It would probably be good to dig these at least partially into the ground, but that increases the risk of raccoon predation. 4. Ultimate solution would be to build a pond with water filtration/circulation/aeration. Did anyone with a REAL pond situation lose outside goldfish/koi to high temperatures???? Betty Goetz _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member