As an alternative to dumping water down the drain why not recycle it some. Water plants with it. Clay Hess 787 Fuselage Systems Integration Manager and Team Leader 425-931-4322 ----- Original Message ----- From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com <gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat <gsas-member@thekrib.com> Sent: Sat Jan 09 22:17:35 2010 Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Water Quality Dear Jesse, I find that setup and routine are essential parts of maintence. While it is possible to injure fish without regular water changes, a sudden massive wc may have also be deadly. The type of fish also makes a difference as a salt reef has absolutily no tolerance for waste while some fish thrive in filth and conditions where few other fish can survive. I am not advocating for keeping betas in hot swamps with little disolved O2 but adaptions like airbreathing do have advantages. I would suggest simply establishing a routine and simplifing the wc process. When maintence is easy to do on tanks I am much more likely todo if. A regular water change is the cheapest and most efective magic bullet the freshwater community has. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2010, at 17:39, Shango Los <shango@shangolos.com> wrote: > I'm looking forward to reading this topic line.... > > On Jan 1, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Doerr, Jesse wrote: > >> As I'm getting into bigger tanks I'm looking for more information on >> water quality. I would like to avoid dumping large quantities of >> water >> down the drain, and so far my experience is that it is has been >> unnecessary. >> For a while now I've been keeping a 3 tank system that is pretty >> heavily >> planted and probably overstocked with fish. The total system is >> about >> 45 gallons and has about 30 barbs, 20 tetras, and recently 20ish >> platties. Despite the bioload everyone is healthy, active, and >> showing >> great colors. The rummy-nose are showing nice read heads going >> almost >> all the way back to the first fin and the barb males have a deep dark >> color. >> So as far as I can tell everything is going fine and the system has >> been >> stable for about 2 years now. >> Water changes tend to be infrequent, typical maintenance is just >> replacing evaporation and feeding. The last water change was over 3 >> months ago and when I inspected a sample of the water today it >> looks and >> smells like it's in great shape. There is no foaming, no odor, and >> it >> is almost exactly as clear as tap water in the same glass, just >> with a >> very faint yellow tinge. >> Can anyone provide me references on what else I might need to look >> out >> for? Is there a risk of a buildup of minerals or chemicals other >> than >> nitrogen and other derivatives? I have noticed that juivinals do >> grow >> more quickly when I am doing actual water changes. >> Jesse >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GSAS-Member mailing list >> GSAS-Member@thekrib.com >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > > _______________________________________________ > GSAS-Member mailing list > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member