I don't worry about dumping water. Because it isn't that much, I mean. Not that conservation isn't a good idea, but consider: A shower takes at least 10 gallons of water, depending on shower head, pressure, time, etc. But that seems to be a fair ballpark based on some web searching. A partial water change in my 90 gal tank (which doesn't have 90 gal in it with the rocks and all) is probably about 20 gal, or 2 showers' worth. If you water your lawn--forgettabout it, that's 5-10 gal per minute. So even with generous water changes, ones' aquariums are not going to be a big part of water usage unless you have a nice big fish room. Conserving is good, but if my fish want a water change I am not going to sweat it. My $0.02. MS On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Hess, Clay A <clay.a.hess@boeing.com>wrote: > As an alternative to dumping water down the drain why not recycle it some. > Water plants with it. > Clay Hess > 787 Fuselage Systems Integration Manager and Team Leader > 425-931-4322 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com <gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com> > To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat <gsas-member@thekrib.com> > Sent: Sat Jan 09 22:17:35 2010 > Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Water Quality > > Dear Jesse, > > I find that setup and routine are essential parts of maintence. While > it is possible to injure fish without regular water changes, a sudden > massive wc may have also be deadly. The type of fish also makes a > difference as a salt reef has absolutily no tolerance for waste while > some fish thrive in filth and conditions where few other fish can > survive. I am not advocating for keeping betas in hot swamps with > little disolved O2 but adaptions like airbreathing do have advantages. > > I would suggest simply establishing a routine and simplifing the wc > process. When maintence is easy to do on tanks I am much more likely > todo if. A regular water change is the cheapest and most efective > magic bullet the freshwater community has. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 1, 2010, at 17:39, Shango Los <shango@shangolos.com> wrote: > > > I'm looking forward to reading this topic line.... > > > > On Jan 1, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Doerr, Jesse wrote: > > > >> As I'm getting into bigger tanks I'm looking for more information on > >> water quality. I would like to avoid dumping large quantities of > >> water > >> down the drain, and so far my experience is that it is has been > >> unnecessary. > >> For a while now I've been keeping a 3 tank system that is pretty > >> heavily > >> planted and probably overstocked with fish. The total system is > >> about > >> 45 gallons and has about 30 barbs, 20 tetras, and recently 20ish > >> platties. Despite the bioload everyone is healthy, active, and > >> showing > >> great colors. The rummy-nose are showing nice read heads going > >> almost > >> all the way back to the first fin and the barb males have a deep dark > >> color. > >> So as far as I can tell everything is going fine and the system has > >> been > >> stable for about 2 years now. > >> Water changes tend to be infrequent, typical maintenance is just > >> replacing evaporation and feeding. The last water change was over 3 > >> months ago and when I inspected a sample of the water today it > >> looks and > >> smells like it's in great shape. There is no foaming, no odor, and > >> it > >> is almost exactly as clear as tap water in the same glass, just > >> with a > >> very faint yellow tinge. > >> Can anyone provide me references on what else I might need to look > >> out > >> for? Is there a risk of a buildup of minerals or chemicals other > >> than > >> nitrogen and other derivatives? I have noticed that juivinals do > >> grow > >> more quickly when I am doing actual water changes. > >> Jesse > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> GSAS-Member mailing list > >> GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > > > > _______________________________________________ > > GSAS-Member mailing list > > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > _______________________________________________ > GSAS-Member mailing list > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > _______________________________________________ > GSAS-Member mailing list > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member