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Re: [GSAS-Member] Tuesday meeting



 New member here. I'm am unable to attend Tuesday's meeting, regretfully. I 
just set up a 400 gal. Tang tank last month. I really wanted to gain some 
knowledge from the good doctor.  I was wandering if the meeting was going to be 
video taped and posted? If so, where would i access it at?  The other question 
i have: are there going to be any Tang. live stock up for auction at this 
meeting. I have some orange lelepui, and juli. transcriptus, that i'd like to 
rehome. Thank you for your time.

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> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:19:20 -0800
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>    1. Re: Name That Cichlid (Doerr, Jesse)
>    2. New member (Betty)
>    3. Well Roy, you were right! (Jeff)
>    4. Re: New member (Paul Wallace)
>    5. Re: Name That Cichlid (Cory McElroy)
>    6. Re: New member (Cory McElroy)
>    7. Re: Name That Cichlid (Cory McElroy)
>    8. Re: Well Roy, you were right! (Paul Wallace)
>    9. Name the Plant Issue (Shango Los)
>   10. Re: New member (Jeff)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:33:25 -0800
> From: "Doerr, Jesse" <Jesse.Doerr@fei.com>
> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat"
>       <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Name That Cichlid
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> Shango,
> 
> If you have a test kit, I'd check your tanks at home right now.  I bet
> you're already hardening your water to 15 or 20 dGH with the cuttlebone
> you've got in your filters.
> 
> For my African chichlids the hard water is created by crushed coral and
> limestone in the tank decorations.  All that I do for water changes is
> siphon and refill from the tap.  The leaching takes care of the rest for
> me.  So it really can be a simple problem to deal with if the fish
> aren't super sensitive.
> 
> Jesse
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:36:15 -0800
> From: Betty <bpell402@gmail.com>
> To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> Subject: [GSAS-Member] New member
> Message-ID:
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> My name is Betty, I joined back in December and thought I should say hello.
> I'm not familiar with this type of forum, so I hope I'm doing this right.
> 
> I live south of Tacoma, so probably won't be attending too many meetings,
> but will definitely be there for Ad Konings!  To be honest, the chance to
> see him is what made me finally decide to join.
> 
> I keep  African cichlids, most of them mbuna from Lake Malawi, but recently
> a few from Tanganyika as well. I hope there are some other African keepers
> here! I have several J. transcriptus and N. leleupi fry that will be ready
> to rehome soon.
> 
> One quick question -- how do I get my membership card?  Do I need to attend
> a meeting or are they mailed out?
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:39:02 -0800
> From: "Jeff" <jeff@gotperk.com>
> To: "'Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat'"
>       <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Well Roy, you were right!
> Message-ID: <A5844447FBEA4880BA5FE3E6FFAD3570@ASD1>
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> 
> Algae bloom city! Six 96watt bright lights from AH Supply is way too much
> light for the amount of plants I have now! I need to stock up tomorrow
> night; When AH says their lights produce a lot more than you would expect
> they are not exaggerating! I know very little about plants, am I correct
> that the smaller leaved plants are higher light plants and the broad leaf
> are more low light? Or will broad leaf plants (like the swords) flourish
> with tons of light?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:43:54 -0800
> From: Paul Wallace <pwallace@u.washington.edu>
> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat
>       <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] New member
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> Dear Betty,
> 
> Welcome to the club!  I am a planted tank guy whom recently picked up  
> an Mbuna tank a few years ago. I hear mbuna are the gateway to tangs.
> 
> If you are driving up to see Jennifer tomorrow we can make a card on  
> the spot. Otherwise I believe it will be mailed.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 11, 2010, at 17:36, Betty <bpell402@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > My name is Betty, I joined back in December and thought I should say  
> > hello.
> > I'm not familiar with this type of forum, so I hope I'm doing this  
> > right.
> >
> > I live south of Tacoma, so probably won't be attending too many  
> > meetings,
> > but will definitely be there for Ad Konings!  To be honest, the  
> > chance to
> > see him is what made me finally decide to join.
> >
> > I keep  African cichlids, most of them mbuna from Lake Malawi, but  
> > recently
> > a few from Tanganyika as well. I hope there are some other African  
> > keepers
> > here! I have several J. transcriptus and N. leleupi fry that will be  
> > ready
> > to rehome soon.
> >
> > One quick question -- how do I get my membership card?  Do I need to  
> > attend
> > a meeting or are they mailed out?
> > _______________________________________________
> > GSAS-Member mailing list
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> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:58:58 -0800
> From: Cory McElroy <corywmcelroy@hotmail.com>
> To: <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Name That Cichlid
> Message-ID: <SNT135-w10D3218174C5400FD03B1CDC6C0@phx.gbl>
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> 
> 
> 
>  Those are yellow labrichromis. The ones in the 90g tank were breed by me :D 
> Jim also breeds some at the shop.
> 
>  
> > From: jeff@gotperk.com
> > To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:58:05 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Name That Cichlid
> > 
> > CONWAY PETS! I was just up there yesterday and he's got a great collection;
> > He breeds these bright yellow ones with a cool black stripe on their top
> > fin; Almost convinced me to switch as well!
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:01:02 -0800
> From: Cory McElroy <corywmcelroy@hotmail.com>
> To: <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] New member
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> 
> Welcome Betty. I am definately interested in some Leleupi fry. Shango may be 
> as well :P
>  
> > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:36:15 -0800
> > From: bpell402@gmail.com
> > To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> > Subject: [GSAS-Member] New member
> > 
> > My name is Betty, I joined back in December and thought I should say hello.
> > I'm not familiar with this type of forum, so I hope I'm doing this right.
> > 
> > I live south of Tacoma, so probably won't be attending too many meetings,
> > but will definitely be there for Ad Konings! To be honest, the chance to
> > see him is what made me finally decide to join.
> > 
> > I keep African cichlids, most of them mbuna from Lake Malawi, but recently
> > a few from Tanganyika as well. I hope there are some other African keepers
> > here! I have several J. transcriptus and N. leleupi fry that will be ready
> > to rehome soon.
> > 
> > One quick question -- how do I get my membership card? Do I need to attend
> > a meeting or are they mailed out?
> > _______________________________________________
> > GSAS-Member mailing list
> > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:10:07 -0800
> From: Cory McElroy <corywmcelroy@hotmail.com>
> To: <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Name That Cichlid
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> 
> I feel I should chime in from the Conway contengency.
> 
>  
> 
> First, choose between high ph, and low ph cichlids.
> 
>  
> 
> Good ones for a 29g:
> 
> High PH
> 
> Leleupi breeding colony
> 
> Multi Shell dwellers Colony breeder, with something up above, tetras/rasboras 
> etc.
> 
> Juliochromis sp.
> 
> Birchardi colony
> 
>  
> 
> Low PH Usually loves a planted tank.
> 
> Kribs (i find i have breeding problems, female puts a pounding on the male.)
> 
> Apistogrammas(huge following of this fish, many varieties.) 
> Rams, German blues etc
> 
>  
> 
> Riverine Cichlids
> 
> Buffalo head cichlid With tetras on the top level, with a few powerheads 
> built into a river manifold.(been on my todo list for a while)
> 
>  
> 
> Thats all I can think of off the top of my head in hurry.
> 
>  
> 
> But Just from seeing your tanks shango. I'd put some research into the river 
> manifold system, with buffalo head cichlids and  tetras. You could do a nice 
> planted tank, river theme. 
> 
>  
> > From: shango@shangolos.com
> > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:51:00 -0800
> > To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> > Subject: [GSAS-Member] Name That Cichlid
> > 
> > Ok, ok...I'm gonna start a cichlid tank.
> > 
> > I resisted for years because I had mixed reactions to an old girlfriends 
> > Cribenza tank where they were always getting all red and shoving each other 
> > back and forth for turf. I like a chill community tank where everyone gets 
> > along.
> > 
> > BUT...
> > 
> > I am kinda fish bored and need something new and Cichlids have so many 
> > colors and personalities. I have always wanted bright fish, yellow would be 
> > the best, but am not ready for a marine tank.
> > 
> > I think the idea of shell dwellers is fun and mouth breeding sounds fun and 
> > I can even handle the territoriality now. I also like the idea of having a 
> > tank that couldn't have plants and was only rock which I think is the whole 
> > story with Cichlids.
> > 
> > Here is the point of this post though...where do I start? There are a TON 
> > of cichlids.
> > 
> > I would like some that...
> > 
> > -are brightly colored
> > -don't have especially high water needs
> > -might breed for me
> > -might be territorial but won't actually nip/cause damage to each other, 
> > just flare color and move aggressively
> > -can handle a gravel tank bottom
> > -will be happy in a 29GAL
> > -Not above $15 each.
> > 
> > If ya'll would suggest a handful of species to begin looking at, I would 
> > appreciate it.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Shango
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:54:36 -0800
> From: Paul Wallace <pwallace@u.washington.edu>
> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat
>       <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Well Roy, you were right!
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> Dear Jeff,
> 
> You should cut down to one bank with 4-6 hours until you have CO2 and  
> fertz lined up. Many plants to great at low light if everything else  
> us there.
> 
> The color is a better guide for light. Dark plants like anubius are on  
> the low side where light green or red are definitly high intensity.  
> Short crypts tend to be shade where tall tends to be in the middle of  
> the stream with more light.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 11, 2010, at 17:39, "Jeff" <jeff@gotperk.com> wrote:
> 
> > Algae bloom city! Six 96watt bright lights from AH Supply is way too  
> > much
> > light for the amount of plants I have now! I need to stock up tomorrow
> > night; When AH says their lights produce a lot more than you would  
> > expect
> > they are not exaggerating! I know very little about plants, am I  
> > correct
> > that the smaller leaved plants are higher light plants and the broad  
> > leaf
> > are more low light? Or will broad leaf plants (like the swords)  
> > flourish
> > with tons of light?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GSAS-Member mailing list
> > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com
> > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:08:52 -0800
> From: Shango Los <shango@shangolos.com>
> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat
>       <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Name the Plant Issue
> Message-ID: <ED0C84B7-EE26-4551-8169-9B9709C1D67B@shangolos.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Something is up in my 34GAL tall
> 
> My glosso is growing tall and not spreading.
> My belin is getting brown tips but making bright green side shoots.
> 
> Same tank that has the cyanobactieria showing up
> 
> Any feedback?
> 
> 35 Tall
> 2 x 55w Coralife Lights - Probably 2 year old bulbs
> Comprehensive Flourish once a week as directed.
> CO2
> Cuttlebone
> 
> I don't have any measurements of the Ph or Kh or anything else.  I know this 
> would help but I just don't have them.  I am hoping it something obvious when 
> looked at by the pros...ie, you.
> 
> -------------- next part --------------
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:19:04 -0800
> From: "Jeff" <jeff@gotperk.com>
> To: "'Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat'"
>       <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] New member
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> 
> Welcome Betty, you will find we are a very easy bunch to hang out with; ask
> any question you want and guaranteed someone in the club has already dealt
> with that problem or has an idea on how to solve it; 
> 
> 
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