Actually Roger, I think that allowing everyone into the Contest, but barring them from the possibility of winning throught rigging or weighting the judging against them would be patently unfair and exclusionary. My view of what you said and how it could be applied here to solve our dilema is that we have two very clearly separate Sections - people could decide for themselves, via a check box on the entry form, which section they wished their images placed in. However, I think that all tanks entered into the Contest should automatically get placed in the Showcase as well. Please note, that in the following, a person wishing to enter their planted aquarium into the Showcase but who did not wish to subject it to the rigours of the Competition, could easily do so. For example, and this is _only_ a suggestion, what about this: Proposed Structure: Section 1. Showcase - Open to all Aquascapes - may or may not include live plants, artifical materials allowed Division I. Aquatic Gardens - featuring live, aquatic plants. Division II. Biotope Aquasacpes - featuring accurate reproductions of natural aquatic environments (including Rift Lake, Brackish). Division III. Artificial Aquascapes - this is where plastic plants and fantasy aquascapes fit Division IV. Paludariums - this Division is optional Section 2. Competition - Limited to Aquatic Gardens - featuring live aquatic plants and only natural decorative materials allowed Division I. Tiny Tanks - 12" long and under Division III. Small Aquascapes - Greater than 12" - Up to and including 24" long Division III. Medium Aquascapes - Greater than 24" - Up to and Including 48" long Division IV. Large Aquascapes - Greater than 48" long (these divisions roughly correspond to the divisions Amano used in his books. I'm open to other suggestions.) NOTE: For this to work - we would DEFINATELY have to have entrance fees. There would be absolutely no way that the AGA MC would approve funding something like this in full. but I think that they _might_ be persuaded to support the structure. I mean, if Aquatic Gardening is _so_ superior, then that superiority should be clearly visible in the Showcase section. James Purchase Toronto AGA member ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@aquatic-gardeners.org with "unsubscribe aga-contest" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-contest-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-contest