"I would like people to speak up on the idea I posted regarding the idea of foregoing any mailed out awards, be they prizes, certificates or ribbons. We could post the "winners" names and send PDF format "certificates" to them to allow them to have something to hang in their fish room if they wish." If you had said something to the effect that this contest was going to be happening and no prize or anything was going to be given out to anyone who placed, I would have hit my delete button and moved on. Numbers of entries will not be a problem with that concept. Every time you ran this event it will get smaller in size too. VERY BAD IDEA!!! "Jose has also suggested memberships in the AGA as another option as "prizes". This would work with this idea, as the "Contest" would not be responsibe for sending anything out in the mail to the people who win. It would require the agreement of the AGA. We could also ask the various magazines for "gift subscriptions" as well." I given a lot of time and some effort in getting together the list of clubs in my area and international (that worked in the English lang..) I given Dave V. a list of dealers that would and have donate prizes in the past to other groups. Yes membership to AGA and magazines subscriptions are great and not to hard to deal with. don't let me think I am wasting my time and resources here. "Would levying a nominal "entry fee" ($5.00/entry) make this more "serious" or more or less likely to garner attention and attract entries?" As to limiting entries, YES! I know of people who will enter a fish contest with every fish they own in a class to "Go For The Odds" to win. This is (I thought) to show our/their "Best", not to be scanning every tank I own with plants or Bio-systems, I have 14 that I could enter and feel that I could place on most. Now multiply that by 3 or 4 views, Hello that is 50's or so pictures from me alone to scan. (I have a few systems that I wouldn't never enter, but another would think that I/they should or could), And I think handling moneys by snail mail to pay for entries presents many problems of lost mail or exchanging monies rate internationally. But would help in paying for mailing out something to the winners. Then maybe $5 is too much? "Do you think that doing away with mailed out ribbons or certificates would hurt the event? Would people be less likely to enter if they know that we are not going to give them a prize, in the traditional sense of the word? Would notification of their efforts via the Web be enough?" I think you know where I stand on this point. I planned to spent more time on the computer this weekend to change my list of clubs to weed out the ones that can't work with out E-mail, and to make sure The point of contacts have E-mail. Now I wonder if I am making a mistake and wasting my time and resources on something I wouldn't even enter as a contest. I hate getting upset at the start of a long weekend. JiM C. ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@aquatic-gardeners.org with "unsubscribe aga-contest" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-contest-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-contest