Bouncing to this list for archiving. -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 07:56:09 -0500 From: Neil Frank <nfrank@mindspring.com> To: erik@thekrib.com Cc: judges@thekrib.com Subject: Suggestions for a future AGA contest Erik/James et al, I was reading the APD and saw the discussion about the contest. I remembered that I had comments that I made during the judging. They are contained below. Please pass them to the right people. Best wishes, Neil PS. As time goes on, I am more and more impressed with the entire concept of the contest /showcase. Based on the number and quality of entries, I believe it was an outstanding success. Now, I want to see tanks in person!! ============================================================================ ====== Suggestions for a future AGA contest To make judging easier *suggest that the judges load the images onto their hard drive; the judge should use the minimum number of folders (different image sizes) to reduce storage requirements *ask each entrant to pick a full tank view or other "primary" image which will be used on the index page. If the entrant does not have such an image, this could be indicated on the index page with an asterik to inform the judges. The entrant should also select the order in which the images are displayed. *The full tank view does not have to show the sides of the aquarium as attempted by #52. However, his digital stitching is a good idea. *If entrant submits tank in parts (left, middle right) , entrant should be encouraged to put them together into a full tank view (maybe require this?)... perhaps entrant can pay to have organizers do it? * Suggest that entrant try to represent at least 80-90 % of tank with full view; somehow, qualify full tank view with drawing (e.g. 2 rectangles) to show portion of tank shown.(this idea would also be useful for the showcase to better communicate the tank layout and contents) *allow judges to upload scores from spread sheet. * It would be helpful if each judge can to see their own scores on the index page to review them as they are entered. Other judging experiences/suggestions *"Next entry" button did not work consistently. *Altough not specifically needed for judging, the layout diagrams were very useful to explain the contents *Make the best of show and honorable mention judging rules known in advance. This way, the judges will know if they should evaluate each class independently, or as part of the overall show. Also, will honorable mention and best of show selections be based on the initial scores or will the judges be asked to make separate selections. Classes: *Need more distinction among classes - paludarium is clear, nature habitat is not. Perhaps it should require representative plants and fishes - should imitate nature, not artistic interpretation.This would have given the mangrove tank an edge. However, the judges may not be sufficiently familiar with natural habitat to make this assessment. No other ideas now, except that I recognize it is a problem. *Should put the supper large tanks - say, > ~400L in a separate category. This is a special challenge. ==================================================== ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-contest" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-contest-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-contest When asked, log in as username is "aga-contest", and password "lookie-loo".