--- roger <roger@spinn.net> wrote: > On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:02:32 -0700 (PDT), S. Hieber wrote > > . . . a category where the entries are > > intended to be only biotopes. . . is much narrower > than > > the original cat. > > If you take Erik's recollection that by the original > design "natural > aquariums" were just poor-mans biotopes then it really > doesn't narrow things > down. Whatever Erik might have meant at the time, I think the lesser biotopes are just the kinds of entries we're talking about as regionally thematic or mutil-cross-biotope, etc. So I think the extent of loss could significant. > If we are actually clear about the definition then > it might narrow the > scope a little because people who had a different concept > of "natural > aquariums" might not enter. That might be a good thing. Yes, I curse the term ;-or haven't you guessed ;-) > Losing a few entries > would be a bad thing. You mean "would" or "wouldn't?" With only a handful to start with, a few is like, maybe, the majority of them. But maybe the cleanest thing is give the guidance and hope to move the themers towards the other end of the spectrum. > > . . .Dutch styles from American and Amano styles, >> > I don't think those styles are defined well enough to > separate them into > categories. Hmmm, I think we could do as good a job at that -- it's the numbers that bother me. There is probably nothing more defined in aquascaping than the dutch tank -- rules enough to fill yin and yang (just trying to keep with your Laotse theme, Roger ;-) ). Amano style is one of those you you know it when you see it things -- probably as well defined for some judges as any specific biotope although certainly more a subjective judgement. But I'm not arguing that we make those diff cats. My point is that it's not all that much easier to separate the biotopes, etc. unless you're drawing a hard and fast line at the perfect and near perfect, pure, whatever you want to call the very narrow class. Maybe the guidance will move the themers to be more biotopotypical. I see an improved Biotopish category with the guidance and probably fewer entries. Maybe some of those will go to the size cats, maybe they'll just choose a diff tank. Well, however narrow the category becomes, it will probably still beat paludarium for number of entries -- especially if Senske submits as heavily in one as the other. Btw, are we going to create a Senske cat? We could limit it to tanks designed buy the Senske's or their staff, regardless of owner. I know that sounds like a narrowly restrictive cat but in terms of number of entries . . . Naw, if we did that we'd lose half our paludariums and biotopoes ;-) sh ===== - - - - - - - - Field Trip to the Baltimore Aquarium and The Aquarium Center First event of the AGA Annual Convention Nov 12, 13 & 14; Details & Registration at www.aquatic-gardeners.org & www.gwapa.org __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe aga-contest" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-contest-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-contest When asked, log in as username is "aga-contest", and password "second".