A fax of a signed photo release would hold up in most courts. A net signature is harder. Cred Card companies accept with signature because they love the business and charge rates to cover the losses -- it's not so much a legal issue for them. Could be for us. But even our PANYNJ attorney's accept fax signatures now. Can you set up the AGA site to take a fax? Anyone that can find Kinko's or a friend with an office job can fax -- except maybe those that have trouble with adhesive stamps and paper in general ;-) sh --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote: > Note for next year: Discuss ways to legally do the photo > release through > the net. Record number of people who, though quite > capable of spending > hundreds of bucks and hours a year on super substrate, > CO2, 20 watts per > gallon of compact fluorescent lighting, hundreds more on > digital photo > equipment and broadband internet, seem unable to mail a > letter. Yes I'm > grumpy about it... > > - Erik > > -- > Erik Olson > erik at thekrib dot com > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:27:59 -0700 (PDT) > From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> > To: Pedro Borges <mrpcb_sp1@mail.netcabo.pt> > Subject: Re: AGA Aquascaping Contest: Still Haven't > Gotten Your Release Form! > > Hi Pedro, > > Seriously, if I was being beaurocratic, I would have > cancelled the entries that > weren't complete on the 15th. Instead, I'm basically > giving everyone an extra > month and a half to send it. And I'm even sending > reminder notices. Doesn't > that seem reasonable? It's strange that back in 2000 and > 2001 when everyone > had to enter through the post office, we had no > complaints about having to send > the release form, but now that everything else can be > done online, a fair > number of people are complaining that they cannot mail a > letter. > > So please, just drop the page in the mail. You've still > got 3 weeks left. > I don't know the legalities of the issue, I'm just > relying on the material set > up by the committee back in 1999. > > Thanks, > > - Erik > > > > > On Thu, 7 Oct 2004, Pedro Borges wrote: > > > Hi Eric, please accept my appology for not sending the > release form yet. > > I have been extremely occupied and have no chance to > make a pitstop at the > > post office. > > I know this is legal stuff and all, but is there any > chance for you to enter > > both my aquariums without my written permission? Both > the aquariums and the > > photos are mine, and you have my absolute and full > permission to do whatever > > you please with them. I know this email means nothing > legally, but heck I'm > > not going to sue you all over the atlantic. > > Please take my photos in good will, they're AGA's to do > whatever you please. > > Hope I can get to convince you. Anyway if it's > EXTRAORDINARILY important > > I'll try and send them anywhere next week, but please > please don't be so > > burocratic with me ok? > > > > So what do you say? > > Looking to hear from you soon > > > > Cheers, > > Pedro Borges > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com> > > To: <mrpcb_sp1@netcabo.pt> > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:07 AM > > Subject: AGA Aquascaping Contest: Still Haven't Gotten > Your Release Form! > > > > > >> Dear AGA Aquascaping Contest Entrant, > >> > >> This is just a reminder that we have not yet received > your Photo > >> Release Form. The contest closed on September 15th, > and while we are > >> being somewhat relaxed about WHEN we get this form, we > still very > >> much need it in order to show your photos on the > public website! > >> > >> You can find a printable photo release form at the > bottom of this page: > >> > >> > http://showcase.aquatic-gardeners.org/2004.cgi?&op=showpage&name=entryform > >> > >> Just drop it in the mail, no need to use rush postage, > as long as we > >> get it by November 1st. > >> > >> I will keep sending reminders like this every couple > weeks, until we > >> get your forms. If you've sent it quite a while ago > and think we > >> should have gotten it by now, please reply to this > e-mail. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> - Erik > >> organizer > > > > -- > Erik Olson > erik at thekrib dot com > _______________________________________________ > AGA-Contest mailing list > AGA-Contest@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-contest > ===== Still some time left to get the 65% discount hotel rate. The Annual AGA Convention, 2004, November 12-14. aquatic-gardeners.org & gwapa.org Speakers, 3 Focus Groups in two sessions each, plus Field Trip, Banquet, auctions of equipment and plants from some of the best companies, gardeners & nurseries in the hobby. _______________________________________________ AGA-Contest mailing list AGA-Contest@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-contest