Re: [AGA-Contest] AGA-Contest Digest, Vol 26, Issue 3

[Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>]

I can e-mail the person.  I have another unrelated question about their 
entry to ask them anyway.

   - Erik

On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Bailin Shaw wrote:

> I had the same thoughts, but you put them into word much more eloquently
> than I ever could have.  Erik, would you like to let the person know or
> would you like me to address this issue?
>
> Bailin
>
>
>> From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
>> Reply-To: AGA Aquascaping Contest Planning <aga-contest@thekrib.com>
>> To: <aga-contest@thekrib.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AGA-Contest] AGA-Contest Digest, Vol 26, Issue 3
>> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:10:37 -0400
>>
>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 19:58:29 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
>>> Subject: [AGA-Contest] up to 38 entries with photos
>>> To: aga-contest@thekrib.com
>>> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0708071950380.12935@pulcher.thekrib.com>
>>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>>
>>> You guys must be doing something right... I don't think we've ever had
>>> this much early participation.
>>>
>>> Got the first controversy of the year today.  One of the contestants has
>>> entered the exact same tank, but with the background changed, as two
>>> separate entries.  I can tell it's the exact same tank because the
>> plants
>>> are in precisely the same location.  Literally just a background swap,
>> one
>>> film for another.  What do you think?
>>>
>>>    * Force it to be evaluated as a single entry, cutting down the total
>> of
>>>      9 photos to 5?
>>>
>>>    * Evaluate as two separate entries?
>>>
>>>    * Evaluate as two separate entries but only allow one to win?
>>>
>>>    * Go back to the entrant and ask them to resubmit?
>>>
>>>
>>>   - Erik
>>
>> The only problem of Scott's idea of having the discretion in "same tank"
>> issues be with the judges, is that up until now the judges have had no
>> contact with each other until the bulk of the judging is completed.  What
>> if
>> some of the judges notice, and another doesn't? (and, having been on all of
>> the judging teams, there are one or two judges I have no confidence WOULD
>> have noticed<g>)
>>
>> In this case, I think I'd suggest someone talking to him politely and
>> seeing
>> if he'd willingly withdraw one entry. (maybe suggesting Scott's possibility
>> that he could weaken his own chance of winning) If he insisted on keeping
>> both entries in, I'd make sure for this year that all of the judges knew
>> about it ahead of time (since some of us already do) and let it go.
>>
>> I agree that it makes sense to add some wording to the rules for next year
>> to try to prevent a recurrence.  Sure it's open to interpretation, so just
>> make it clear up-front, who has the final decision-making authority.
>> Suggest that if a person is unsure whether two entries might be too
>> similar,
>> that they run it by the committee chair ahead of time.  In photography
>> contests, the final decision on entries that are too similar (such as the
>> same view shot vertically then horizontally) is with the show committee
>> chairman.  I think that's a better place to put the decision than the
>> judges.  I don't think any particular tank should be called to the judges'
>> attention for good or for bad before the actual judging starts.
>>
>> That's one judge's perspective on the issue.<g>
>>
>> Karen
>>
>>
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