Re: [AGA-Contest] AGA-Contest Digest, Vol 26, Issue 3

["Bailin Shaw" <bailin_shaw@hotmail.com>]

I had the same thoughts, but you put them into word much more eloquently 
than I ever could have.  Erik, would you like to let the person know or 
would you like me to address this issue?

Bailin


>From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
>Reply-To: AGA Aquascaping Contest Planning <aga-contest@thekrib.com>
>To: <aga-contest@thekrib.com>
>Subject: Re: [AGA-Contest] AGA-Contest Digest, Vol 26, Issue 3
>Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:10:37 -0400
>
>
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 19:58:29 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
> > Subject: [AGA-Contest] up to 38 entries with photos
> > To: aga-contest@thekrib.com
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> > You guys must be doing something right... I don't think we've ever had
> > this much early participation.
> >
> > Got the first controversy of the year today.  One of the contestants has
> > entered the exact same tank, but with the background changed, as two
> > separate entries.  I can tell it's the exact same tank because the 
>plants
> > are in precisely the same location.  Literally just a background swap, 
>one
> > film for another.  What do you think?
> >
> >    * Force it to be evaluated as a single entry, cutting down the total 
>of
> >      9 photos to 5?
> >
> >    * Evaluate as two separate entries?
> >
> >    * Evaluate as two separate entries but only allow one to win?
> >
> >    * Go back to the entrant and ask them to resubmit?
> >
> >
> >   - Erik
>
>The only problem of Scott's idea of having the discretion in "same tank"
>issues be with the judges, is that up until now the judges have had no
>contact with each other until the bulk of the judging is completed.  What 
>if
>some of the judges notice, and another doesn't? (and, having been on all of
>the judging teams, there are one or two judges I have no confidence WOULD
>have noticed<g>)
>
>In this case, I think I'd suggest someone talking to him politely and 
>seeing
>if he'd willingly withdraw one entry. (maybe suggesting Scott's possibility
>that he could weaken his own chance of winning) If he insisted on keeping
>both entries in, I'd make sure for this year that all of the judges knew
>about it ahead of time (since some of us already do) and let it go.
>
>I agree that it makes sense to add some wording to the rules for next year
>to try to prevent a recurrence.  Sure it's open to interpretation, so just
>make it clear up-front, who has the final decision-making authority.
>Suggest that if a person is unsure whether two entries might be too 
>similar,
>that they run it by the committee chair ahead of time.  In photography
>contests, the final decision on entries that are too similar (such as the
>same view shot vertically then horizontally) is with the show committee
>chairman.  I think that's a better place to put the decision than the
>judges.  I don't think any particular tank should be called to the judges'
>attention for good or for bad before the actual judging starts.
>
>That's one judge's perspective on the issue.<g>
>
>Karen
>
>
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